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Lake Erie UFO's update - Bigelow Involvement Now

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posted on Jun, 26 2010 @ 11:58 PM
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Here is what is known regarding these Orbs of Light UFO's or Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)

Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) in the UK Air Defence Region

The Ministry of Defence has released this report in response to a Freedom of Information request and we are pleased to now make it available to a wider audience via the MOD Freedom of Information Publication Scheme. Where indicated information is withheld in accordance with Section 26 (Defence), Section 27 (International Relations) and Section 40 (Personal Information) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

www.mod.uk...

That Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP or UFO) Exist is indisputable. Credited with the ability to hover, land, take off, accelerate to astonishing velocities and vanish. They can reportedly alter their direction of flight suddenly and clearly can exhibit aerodynamics characteristics well beyond those of any known aircraft or missile - either manned or unmanned.

The Conditions for the initial formation and sustaining of what are apparently buoyant charged masses (of Plasma), which can form, separate, merge, hover, climb, dive, and accelerate are not completely understood.

Dependent on a color's temperature and aerosol density, it may be seen visually, either by it self generated plasma color, by reflected light, or silhouette by light blockage and background contrast.

Occasionally and perhaps exceptionally, it seems a field with, undetermined characteristics can exist between certain charged buoyant objects in loose formation, the intervening space between them forms an area, viewed as a shape, often Triangular, from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been called black "Craft", often triangular and up to hundreds of feet in length.

- The UK Ministry of Defence




posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 12:05 AM
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For those interested in current scientific opinion about these Ball Of Light UFO's/UAPs, check out this documentary called ‘The Portal: The Hessdalen Light Phenomenon’ [2009] explains the latest scientific research and conclusions about the light phenomena seen in the remote Norwegian valley of Hessdalen.

This is the same Light Phenomenon (Orbs Of Light) showing up worldwide right now over Lake Erie, Texas, The UK, Pheonix, Mexico, California, Etc.












Background information:

Hessdalen is a small valley in the central part of Norway. At the end of 1981 through 1984, residents of the Valley became concerned and alarmed about strange, unexplained lights that appeared at many locations throughout the Valley. Hundreds of lights were observed. At the peak of activity there were about 20 reports a week.

Project Hessdalen was established in the summer of 1983. A field investigation was carried out between 21.January and 26.February 1984. Fifty-three light observations were made during the field investigation. Assistant professor Erling Strand, the founder of the Hessdalen project, conducted together with the author the first international congress of the Hessdalen phenomena in 1994. This congress attracted scientists from all over the world and boosted the scientific research in Hessdalen.

Statements from the congress indicated that explanation of the phenomena could lead to new concepts in physics. This congress also started the collaboration between Østfold University College in Norway and CNR in Italy. Together with Dr. Stelio Montebugnoli the author started the EMBLA project, with the purpose of studying the electromagnetic radiation and behavior of the Hessdalen phenomena in 1999. Lights are still being observed in the Hessdalen Valley, but their frequency has decreased to about 20 observations a year.

The following is the conclusions from over 25 years of research and after Italian SETI scientists got involved with much more highly sophisticated equipment.


*The phenomenon is identified as a bright flying object with special characteristics making it unique to science."

*The phenomenon is more complex and diverse than expected, indicating more than 1 single kind of phenomenon."

*The phenomenon is sometimes made up of separate units that may depart and fly away.

*The speed varies from still to 8km per second."

*The phenomenon changes course in speeds indicating no mass by physical means.

*The phenomenon seems to be able to take on pieces of plasma or energy from the ground whilst passing by.

*The phenomenon seems to radiate energy due to the light and frequency change of colour.

*Many interesting spectra in the optical and radio frequency range have been detected but more data is needed to draw proper conclusions.

“These scientific data are quite sensational! We are dealing with a real existing phenomenon which can be observed even though this is difficult.”
Terje Toftenes, 2009


Research paper:
10 YEARS OF SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH OF THE HESSDALEN PHENOMENA (2004)
www.itacomm.net...





[edit on 27-6-2010 by MrUnkown]



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 04:07 AM
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Well you selectively quoted that quite impressively.

The first paragraph is a portion of the introduction which appears on page 6 and talks about reports. It is not describing conclusions, only claims of the capabilities of UAPs.

The next three paragraphs you quote come from the Summary of Findings. Some interesting parts of the Summary which you chose to leave out.

10. Causes of UAP Reports - In the absence of any evidence to the contrary, the key UAP report findings are:

Mis-reporting of man-made vehicles, often observed by perfectly credible witnesses, but with unfamiliar or abnormal features; or in unsual circumstances.

Reports of natural but not unusual phenomena, which are genuinely misunderstood at the time by the observer.

The incidence of natural, but relatively rare phenomena. These may be increasing due to natural changes and possibly accelerated by man-aided factors, such as smoke and dust.

Further:
No evidence exists to associate the phenomena with any particular nation

No evidence exists to suggest that the phenomena seen are hostile or under any type of control, other than that of natural physical forces.


In particular, the three paragraphs you quote are on page 9 and seem to be referring to the natural (but rare) phenomenon which is commonly called ball lightning.

But it appears that the Lake Erie "sightings" would fall under the classification of

Mis-reporting of man-made vehicles, often observed by perfectly credible witnesses, but with unfamiliar or abnormal features; or in unsual circumstances.
except that there are no unfamiliar or abnormal features. They are airplanes.

One more item of interest. Page 12

There is no evidence that any UAP, seen in the UKADR, are incursions by air-objects of any intelligent (extra-terrestrial or foreign) origin, or that they represent any hostile intent.


[edit on 6/27/2010 by Phage]



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 05:50 AM
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MrUnknown.....



Here is two recent updates to this Lake Erie UFO story as reported by Jaime Maussan!


OK.....

I'l try to struggle past that bit & keep on reading.....

:shk:



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 05:55 AM
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MrUnknown.....

OK.....I'm watching the Maussan video.

I think he has a neck problem.

His head sort of hangs forward like a gopher now & bobs around a lot.

I'll keep going.....

Kind regards
Maybe...maybe not



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 06:01 AM
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Edit By Maybe...maybe not:

I removed this post because a friend asked me to.

No worries, my friend!



[edit on 27-6-2010 by Maybe...maybe not]



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 06:12 AM
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Maussan has a rubberneck from nodding YES to everything he sees, Maussan is NOT a UFO researcher btw. Research involves investigation and scientific analysis mind you neither is used by maussan. As for the "Orbs" this has become a problem in UFOligy as some may know. You see there use to be flying saucers now those are almost never seen any more. Now it is orbs and almost 99% of the time it is air planes and air traffic. Im not saying Orbs are not alien vehicles I am saying there is not proof these orbs are Alien at all. This is the perception certain UFO gurus seem to have in this ORB trend.

While i believe there has been and there is ET interaction i have yet to see anything impressive when it comes to ORBS. Maussan i would not touch him with a 10 foot pole if i want to be taken seriously. Anyone who still thinks Billy Miers wedding Cake and blonde acquaintance is of alien origin... i wont even pay no mind to.



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 06:24 AM
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Originally posted by MrUnkown
Here is what is known regarding these Orbs of Light UFO's or Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)

Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) in the UK Air Defence Region

The Ministry of Defence has released this report in response to a Freedom of Information request and we are pleased to now make it available to a wider audience via the MOD Freedom of Information Publication Scheme. Where indicated information is withheld in accordance with Section 26 (Defence), Section 27 (International Relations) and Section 40 (Personal Information) of the Freedom of Information Act 2000.

www.mod.uk...

That Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon (UAP or UFO) Exist is indisputable. Credited with the ability to hover, land, take off, accelerate to astonishing velocities and vanish. They can reportedly alter their direction of flight suddenly and clearly can exhibit aerodynamics characteristics well beyond those of any known aircraft or missile - either manned or unmanned.

The Conditions for the initial formation and sustaining of what are apparently buoyant charged masses (of Plasma), which can form, separate, merge, hover, climb, dive, and accelerate are not completely understood.

Dependent on a color's temperature and aerosol density, it may be seen visually, either by it self generated plasma color, by reflected light, or silhouette by light blockage and background contrast.

Occasionally and perhaps exceptionally, it seems a field with, undetermined characteristics can exist between certain charged buoyant objects in loose formation, the intervening space between them forms an area, viewed as a shape, often Triangular, from which the reflection of light does not occur. This is a key finding in the attribution of what have frequently been called black "Craft", often triangular and up to hundreds of feet in length.

- The UK Ministry of Defence



Sounds like foo fighters then in description of black triangles the TR3B. Do you think the foo fighters were a technology the Germans acquired? Maybe there is a connection between the TR3B and the foo fighters or these UAP's? Also is this report originating from Paul Hellyer?



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
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Please provide a source verifying that the claimed correspondence with Bigelow Aerospace occurred. (Yeah, I know, "unnamed source".)

While Bigelow owns skinwalker ranch, skinwalker.org is not connected to Bigelow Aerospace. It is a blog. Please provide evidence that the "findings" of skinwalker.org have anything to do with Bigelow Aerospace or NDISci.


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[edit on 6/26/2010 by Phage]


i'm confused this guy has nothing to do with bigelow or skinwalker ranch. I run www.skinwalkerranch.org perhaps are you reffering to my website? If so I have zero direct connection to BAASS, however they is my website's primary topic.

also wasnt this lake erie topic and baass already dicussed here some time back? I'll find the thread....

[edit on 27-6-2010 by hiii_98]



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 03:39 PM
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Do you think the foo fighters were a technology the Germans acquired?



I don't believe so because these Ball of Light being reported out over Lake Erie were reported in local Cleveland newspapers back in the 1800's, they called them Wizard Lights back then.

Here is more info on that info...

In the 1860s, and for sometime before that, those who lived on the highlands south of Cleveland were perplexed by a mystery on the lake – they called the phenomenon “The Wizard Lights”. One such account of these lights occurred on the night of Oct. 29th, 1867, when something strange – and bright – appeared out on the lake. Many thought it looked as if a steamer was in distress and on fire.

“The object appeared to be some 200 or more feet in length upon the water, and about as high above the water as an upper cabin steamer,” stated one witness. “The sky and water were beautifully irradiated by the light during its great brilliancy.”

The witness continued, “The resemblance which this light bore to that of the burning steamer was so strong that I confidently expected the arrival of the boats from the wreck during the night.” But none came, nor did any wreckage wash ashore. There was some speculation that heavy winds had opened crevices in the lake, sending underground gas, ignited by lightning, spewing into the air.

One hundred and twenty years later, however, many credible witnesses would swear the “mysterious lights” on the lake was a ship. But not from this planet.

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posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 03:39 PM
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I thought it was an interesting post, but I do agree with this quote below:


Originally posted by Man1fesT
Well there goes any chance of this story being taken seriously at all by anyone. Jaime Maussan is a fraud, a hoaxer, a liar, a cheater and an overall burden on anyone trying to find the legitimate and whole truth about the UFO/ET issue.

1 step forward with MSM coverage, 30 steps back with Jaime Maussan.



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 03:40 PM
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www.abovetopsecret.com...

this entire thread is old news discussed a month ago



posted on Jun, 27 2010 @ 03:41 PM
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