Juror booted out for naughty T-shirt

reply to post by brainwrek

Thankfully these holier than thou puritans are dying off and hopefully the notion of "deceny" dies with them.

Yes, because "decency" is such a horrid concept!

Perhaps when you grow up you will understand, right now, I think it may be teen angst that is your issue. Rage against the machine brother!

reply to post by whatukno


Much like your other posts, this one too was a miserable failure.

Long past the angry teenaged years.

Whats considered "decent" for one is vastly different from another. Too bad you cant comprehend that simple concept.


What you fail to realize is this:

There is something called freedom of expression.

There is no such thing as the right to not be offended.

[edit on 25-6-2010 by brainwrek]

reply to post by brainwrek

There is something called freedom of expression.

Not in a court of law, when you are a juror.

Do you think it would be appropriate for her to have worn pasties in the court?

What about a 300 lb harry man, should he be allowed to wear a mankini in a court room?

On the street is one thing, in a court room is another, and instead of going round and round with you on this, Ill just leave it at that.




[edit on 6/25/2010 by whatukno]

reply to post by whatukno


Have you seen the pic of the juror? 100% ugly.

Not something I would want to see, but after the initial dry heaves from the audience, I see no reason how wearing pasties would negatively affect her duty to act as an impartial juror.

Just because I dont like it doesnt mean my opinion should infringe upon her right to wear whatever she wants.

So it's ok to sit in a jury box and wear your starfleet uniform and pretend that you're a starfleet officer... but it's not ok to have that word on your shirt? WTH???

reply to post by tezzajw


How the hell did the judge notice this and no one else? It was only and inch and a half..

On a jury.. in a trial? tshirt? classic.

"Sounds like a personal problem," she said as she walked out of the courthouse.

That part made me laugh.

reply to post by PsykoOps

So it's ok to sit in a jury box and wear your starfleet uniform and pretend that you're a starfleet officer... but it's not ok to have that word on your shirt? WTH???

I had to look up what you were talking about, and I say NO that is not appropriate. I love star trek, but that's not only inappropriate, it's just downright creepy.

Funny how I started my topic of me being choosen next month...

www.belowtopsecret.com...

...and then this happens.

What if I don't have any "formal buisness" clothing?

I could...

1. Just wear my camo pants and one of my shirts
2. Wear one of my tea party shirts
3. Wear one of my anti government shirts

etc...

The hell I"m going out to buy something to make uncle sam satisfied...

Our justice system is twisted.

I'd rather send a guilty man free than an innocent man to jail.

Just because the jury came to a "consensus" means nothing...they just average themselves.

Originally posted by Solofront
Our justice system is twisted.
I'd rather send a guilty man free than an innocent man to jail.

Just because the jury came to a "consensus" means nothing...they just average themselves.

This.

+1

It's too bad that other people are prepared to sacrifice a percentage of innocents, if it means they'll sleep better at night.

Originally posted by LadySkadi
reply to post by tezzajw

 

I guess most people are happy enough to live with such a flawed system of punishment, dangling over them.

What is your solution?

You do have one, right?

I have one. A law that is based on socialistic approaches where all parties involved agree on a right strategy to deal with the defendant depending on the crime in question. This then gets passed through a Jury and finally a judge for charging.
The whole law system being based on a unproven book written 2000 years ago is completely immoral both legally and morally, and holds no stance to anyone who is in court defending themselves against it. Considering the "commandments" can't be proven as neither can God.

Its just a shirt people

Grow up!

I find it halirious when members try and show their "anger" on a forum, lol its funny, its ok, relax, go read a book, it'll be ok, lol

So I don't even know what to wear, I"m thinking just my wrangler camo pants from walmart and one of my shirts...but...which...SHIRT??

Why is it that the judge was allowed to judge her shirt?

I only wear about 3 different shirts, but have a few others I wear every once and a while, I own no buisness shirts, and I surely won't go out and buy one for any government ran justice system.

reply to post by Solofront


You could go to the salvation army and buy a dress shirt for $2.00. Course that would be reasonable wouldn't it?

reply to post by Solofront


This is really not that difficult to figure out.

Dress appropriately for the venue.

I don't understand why this is an issue? There are dress "requirements" be them formal or informal in every part of your daily life. The courts are no different. If you seriously cannot figure this out, than perhaps you cannot be trusted as part of a jury undertaking the decisions that will affect another for life.

reply to post by whatukno


Its out of my way though, why should I have to do anything, I'm going at least, and I don't even want to do that, but since I am going, I'm just telling myself it will be a "learning experience" whatever that turns out to be

Originally posted by LadySkadi

This is really not that difficult to figure out.

Dress appropriately for the venue.
If you seriously cannot figure this out, than perhaps you cannot be trusted as part of a jury undertaking the decisions that will affect another for life.

So since I'm not in "buisness" casual I can't be trusted in making "reasonable" decisions...?

Shouldn't one be relaxed and comfortable, when having such situations such as a trial decision placed on them without warning...?

[edit on 25-6-2010 by Solofront]

reply to post by Solofront


Um, no. That's not what I said.

What I said is that if you cannot figure out how to manage the different moments of your life, you need to ask yourself why. Bemoaning the fact that you "should" be able to wear whatever you want is one thing, but not understanding (or accepting) why you "cannot" is another. "Cannot" is in quotes, because of course wear whatever, just expect consequences to be attributed to that decision be it positive, negative or neutral.

Enough said?

this thread went 3 pages and only 2 flags... back n forth with over what kind of shirt should be worn during jury duty.

Riiiiight....

as i said before... grow up... its just a damn shirt!

BTW i served twice on a jury... wore a t-shirt both times. One said...

'If you come too close ill flick a booger at you.'

and the other said nothing since it was just a dang t-shirt!

damn, grow up people... its just a damn shirt... people should be allowed to wear what they want as long as it covers what needs to be covered.

yeeeeeeesh!

Enough said

Though I'm still not going out of my way to buy pieces of clothing only to never wear again

reply to post by Solofront


Lol. What guy doesn't need another t-shirt?

Anyway, chances are you probably won't get called, plan to sit around all day.