Postcards From Hell: Images from the Worst Failed States in Our World

reply to post by Aggie Man


I agree - they took some liberties in a few areas. Seems to me a failed state would need to be a total default monetarily or have no working government like with Somalia.

Originally posted by Rohdan
man I'm so glad that everything in the US and europe is working absoultely fine

Even if our economies completely and totally collapsed....

We would still be far, far, far better off than countries like Somalia, Congo, Liberia, etc etc etc....

Westerners don't know how good they got it, even our poor are considered rich by their standards.

I notice the vast majority of failed countries are in Africa. I can concede there is a level of corporate exploitation by the West there, but not at such a degree most of their countries fail.. Never understood why the Africans were always last on the list, throughout history and today, especially considering how rich the land is.

Lol, reminds me of that old simpsons quote, "We cant fix your heart, but we can tell you exactly how damaged it is" "what an age we live in!"

Sooo... what does identifying them as failed states, accomplish..?

Originally posted by Big Raging Loner
That's it I'm moving to Oz! Love a bit of human geography in the morning gets the brain active.


Scandinavia is not surprising to be in the top, but Sweden in particular has the highest tax rates in the world and also some of the highest suicide rates. Something to do with the lack of sunlight I'll bet, that's why Oz comes out on top for me!

Sweden is not soo bad concerning the high suicide rates of Western countries in the world, I guess it could be a lot worse regarding the long dark depressing winters and so on.

Sweden is listed as number 29 on this list from 2006 and I know it's getting better and better each year since the problem was recognised in the late 1990's - when the Government started to work seriously with depressed people and troubled teeens.

Before Sweden on the list, we can find countries as Nr: 2 Russia, 5 Japan, 7 Ukraine, 8 South Korea, 10 Hungary, 15 Belgium, 17 Switzerland, 18 France, 20 Uruguay, 22 Austria, 24 Hong Kong, 25 Poland, 27 China, 28 New Zealand, 29. Sweden

Norway was listed as Nr: 39

USA is listed as Nr: 41 and Austraila as Nr: 45

Germany is located at place Nr: 50 and the 'stiff upper lip' people of the UK at Nr: 66 - they probably drown all their sorrows in beer instead!

Spain's party crew are listed as Nr: 68 - and the happy Italians are listed as Nr: 72

Greece seems to be a happy carefree bunch of people who are enjoying life to the fullest without to much suicides as Nr: 84

But that WAS 2008 before the economic crises!

Last country on the list with least Suicides per 100,000 people per year - is Haiti - listed as Nr: 106

en.wikipedia.org...


And from this list from WHO we can see that the US is listed just one place below Sweden.

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fathersforlife.org...


So maybe the exaggerated rumours about Sweden being in the top is just an Internet myth from people with an agenda?

Something the political bandits just invented to twist the facts and make themselves better, when people and the US masses who had these "annoying" questions were pointing to much at to why Sweden usually always had all these "good society numbers" internationally - they invented this myth to explain this away by saying:

"Well, don't look at Scandinavia and Sweden and their policies & politics too much because all is not fine and dandy with nice smelling roses overthere - these people and their societies are apparently suicidal"

reply to post by Chevalerous


I think that shows our Quality of Life is higher.. er.. we have fancy cars and big houses.. but our "way" of Life.... sucks.

Or maybe no one can possibly count suicide rates in a country like Sudan or Congo .. who knows.. but for such a happy advanced people, the Western World anymore is a Prozak society.

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Chevalerous

 

I think that shows our Quality of Life is higher.. er.. we have fancy cars and big houses.. but our "way" of Life.... sucks.

Or maybe no one can possibly count suicide rates in a country like Sudan or Congo .. who knows.. but for such a happy advanced people, the Western World anymore is a Prozak society.

Yeah exactly! The Prozak Nations we've got all these fancy things but something is missing for some of these people - Spirituality? - they feel kinda empty inside.

BTW! I found the reason to why the myth evolved about people in Sweden being the most prone to suicides.

And it seems I was right, the myth was politically driven crap because Sweden choosed a third way - a capitalist core with socialist frills between Capitalism and social welfare for its people, and some people in the US really didn't like the success of that model!

"The myth of Swedish suicide" has its roots in the late 1950s and a speech given by the then US President Dwight D. Eisenhower which had been based on an inaccurate briefing.

The President's speech was intended to paint a negative picture of Sweden, then a country advocating a brand of third-way cradle-to-the-grave socialism and adopting a stance of post-war neutrality outside NATO and US influence.

Since Eisenhower's speech many people have accepted the picture as fact and thus helped to perpetuate the myth.

www.thelocal.se...



And from the same article we can read:

'Anti-depressants cut suicides': Swedish study

The number of suicides reported among the Swedish adult population has declined considerably and anti-depressants are credited with saving up to 500-600 lives per annum, a new study argues.

In 1995 1,783 Swedes took their own lives. Ten years later the figure had declined to 1,451, a drop of 18 percent.

Over the same period the use of anti-depressant medication increased dramatically among the Swedish adult population.

www.thelocal.se...


A lady doctor friend told me that a couple of years ago, they were medicating away all these people who were proned to take their own lives, with antidepressant on a very broad scale.

Suddenly they gave all of them a lot of antidepressants, and these affected people were told to eat them as candy!

Well, it now turns out that they found out, that only medicating people with heavy antidepressants was a really bad solution and not the complete answer, it surley got the numbers down quickly, but the longer term bad development was that many young people were turned into emotional zombies and were suffering from other very bad side effects.

So the new Swedish model from 2009 is apparently conversational therapy as the initial treatment for patients suffering from depression.

Or very short initial treatment with medicines then followed up by a longer term treatment with conversational therapy.

They now argue that medicine should not be used in the first instance as several studies indicate that conversational therapy works just as well - and I think this is great news to hear since the heavy and long term use of the SSRI antidepressants are bad for the patients - considering that the long term use of most antidepressants are bad for the brain and contain fluoride.

But this semi-new treatment model is surley going to be an uphill battle against the mighty drug lobby, since we all know how influential the Big Pharma Mafia are regarding their pesky poison selling scheme: "Cure people without our pills" - WHAT!?

[edit on 25-6-2010 by Chevalerous]

reply to post by Chevalerous

Its all the Danes! They hate us! Want to make us look bad

You're right, a lot of people dislike socialism in the slightest degree and so they try to make socialist countries look bad, even for Canada too.

I think its funny they call North Korea a failed state when its pretty intact, people should watch documentaries on it to see how people live there... its strict and propagandised but it looks very normal. But who knows what they arent allowed to see?