Poll: Who thinks the CIA/Mossad did 9/11 with the help of dual citizen U.S./Israel agents?

I am asking this because I am wondering why this thread

www.abovetopsecret.com...

is in the hoax section. I'm sure it has some errors, namely the number of Jewish people that died in the attacks (the thread says only 1 out of 4000 Israeli Jews died).

But there is undoubtedly true things in there. To just label the entire thread as a hoax seems like a hoax to me. The OP has a full flag contribution level, so either he is well liked or a really good hoaxer.

So basically I want to know where people stand on the issue of 9/11, and whether or not you think it is outrageous to put the entire thread in the hoax section

Fox News obviously found something out, and then shut up about it.

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Israel was the only nation to benefit from 9-11, hence they are the prime suspects.

I think there may be some truth to it but only in regards to Israel/Mossad/CIA having some limited intel as to it (911) was going to happen then allowed it. By doing nothing to me, its the same as being involved especially when it comes to a crime or act of terrorism. There is also many aspects regarding the connection of the CIA, Mossad & Israel that are still being kept secret. With all of the secrecy and behind the curtain crap regarding 911 there is really no telling what really did happen. Lots of people have their opinion and I mine as well. One day maybe the truth will get out.

Israel and the Jewish oil cartels in the U.S are the only ones benefitting fron the war in Iraq. 12% of all of the gasoline going into your gas tanks in the U.S is coming from Iraq. People in Iraq are getting nothing from the oil that is being stolen out of their country. The official story is that were supposed to be "nation building" in Iraq.
What is even more shocking than this is that 7% of all of the gasoline that is going into your tanks is being stolen out of Mexico. The Bush family owned the Zapata oil company in the 1950's and this supposedly pro Mexican George Bush has been stealing oil out of their country for years. THe Bush Socialist Fox connection has been making billions cutting Mexicans out of their oil revenues during the Bush administration.

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I'm not sure WHO did it but I'm pretty sure WHO didn't...

Thats 19 cave dwellers with box cutters and minimal flight training...

Originally posted by virgom129
reply to post by filosophia

 

I'm not sure WHO did it but I'm pretty sure WHO didn't...

Thats 19 cave dwellers with box cutters and minimal flight training...

Good thing the perpetrators on 9/11 weren't cave dwellers then. Three of the pilot hijackers held university degrees and the fourth held a commercial pilots' rating.

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Yeah well I hold a commercial pilots' rating too, but I cant fly the planes they flew....

So whats your point???

A commercial pilots' licence means you can fly a single engined prop plane. You can get a twin endorsement and levels for instruments...

It doesn't mean you can fly a commercial jet......

Originally posted by roboe

Originally posted by virgom129
reply to post by filosophia

 

I'm not sure WHO did it but I'm pretty sure WHO didn't...

Thats 19 cave dwellers with box cutters and minimal flight training...

Good thing the perpetrators on 9/11 weren't cave dwellers then. Three of the pilot hijackers held university degrees and the fourth held a commercial pilots' rating.

Were those the guys found to be still alive, or were those different Arab terrorists?

[edit on 19-6-2010 by aching_knuckles]

Originally posted by virgom129
reply to post by roboe

 

Yeah well I hold a commercial pilots' rating too, but I cant fly the planes they flew....

So whats your point???

A commercial pilots' licence means you can fly a single engined prop plane. You can get a twin endorsement and levels for instruments...

It doesn't mean you can fly a commercial jet......

What did the pilots do that was so different from flying a single-engine prop? All they had to do was switch off the transponder, tune a VOR and follow the needle until they were within visual range of their target.

In any case, would you not agree that cavedwellers doesn't really fit their description?

EDIT: One thing I have yet to see from people promoting the Mossad-theory, is the simple answer to the question "Why?".

Why would Mossad (and by extension Israel) risk losing their biggest (if not sole) ally? Remember, the US is even willing to ignore all the evidence of Israels nuclear arsenal, so they can keep funnelling billions of dollars worth of aid. What could Mossad/Israel possibly gain from orchestrating such an attack?

[edit on 19-6-2010 by roboe]

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Same faces, same names, same fingerprints but definitly different guys...
Ohh and one still had his red bandanna..

Just ask the CIA or NSA

Looks like someones trying to make a filtering thread to group/identify posters on here haha....Oh boy oh boy...lol

reply to post by roboe


Israel would gain their biggest ally and the planets badass to sit squarely in their neighborhood protecting them from Iran and others who Israel believes would attack them.


Israel cannot be trusted, nor are they a friend of the U.S.

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These guys can answer your questions better than me...

Have a good read about what professional pilots think then get back to me.

pilotsfor911truth.org...

Originally posted by virgom129
reply to post by aching_knuckles

 

Same faces, same names, same fingerprints but definitly different guys...
Ohh and one still had his red bandanna..

Just ask the CIA or NSA

The 'Same face' was a case of mistaken identity, not helped by the fact that the mistaken person was a pilot for Saudi Arabian Airlines.

'Same names'? Give me a break. Since when has anyone ever had a completely unique name, not shared by anyone else in this world.

'Same fingerprints'? That's a new one. Care to cite evidence?

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Why would Mossad (and by extension Israel) risk losing their biggest (if not sole) ally?

Theres always the question of the missing $Trillions..........

Originally posted by virgom129
reply to post by roboe

 

These guys can answer your questions better than me...

Have a good read about what professional pilots think then get back to me.

pilotsfor911truth.org...

Ah yeah, Rob Balsamo. Should have made that 'Pilot (singular) for 9/11 Truth', given that he's about the only active, current pilot on there.

I wonder if his maths have improved, since he claimed that AA77, after allegedly overflying the Pentagon, made an 11G turn to fly up the Potomac

reply to post by roboe


'Same fingerprints'? That's a new one. Care to cite evidence?

Care to show me the security footage of these 19 boarding the planes???

It was taken by the Israeli security company at the terminals....

reply to post by roboe


Ah yeah, Rob Balsamo. Should have made that 'Pilot (singular) for 9/11 Truth', given that he's about the only active, current pilot on there.

Yes I agree, because active pilots risk their job by speaking out...
But there are many retired pilots with the same views...
Are they not worthy enough to listen to??

Originally posted by virgom129
reply to post by roboe

 

Why would Mossad (and by extension Israel) risk losing their biggest (if not sole) ally?

Theres always the question of the missing $Trillions..........

Ah yeah, the missing Trillions. I wonder why Rumsfeld just HAD to hold a press conference to announce them to the world. He could simply have kept quiet, so noone would become suspicious about them.

Or, it could be that they weren't actually missing, but that piss-poor accounting procedures meant that they could not be accounted for? How about reading what Rumsfeld actually said himself?

The technology revolution has transformed organizations across the private sector, but not ours, not fully, not yet. We are, as they say, tangled in our anchor chain. Our financial systems are decades old. According to some estimates, we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions. We cannot share information from floor to floor in this building because it's stored on dozens of technological systems that are inaccessible or incompatible.

We maintain 20 to 25 percent more base infrastructure than we need to support our forces, at an annual waste to taxpayers of some $3 billion to $4 billion. Fully half of our resources go to infrastructure and overhead, and in addition to draining resources from warfighting, these costly and outdated systems, procedures and programs stifle innovation as well. A new idea must often survive the gauntlet of some 17 levels of bureaucracy to make it from a line officer's to my desk. I have too much respect for a line officer to believe that we need 17 layers between us....

The fact that it was an ongoing problem can be seen from this article from 2000: hv.greenspun.com...

Oh, and wouldn't you know, they actually reconciled 2/3 of the missing Trillions less than 6 months after 9/11. I guess crashing into the Pentagon didn't really help after all.

WASHINGTON, Feb. 20, 2002 -- As part of military transformation efforts, DoD Comptroller Dov S. Zakheim and his posse of accountants are riding the Pentagon's financial paper trail, seeking to corral billions of dollars in so-called "lost" expenditures.

For years, DoD and congressional officials have sought to reconcile defense financial documents to determine where billions in expenditures have gone. That money didn't fall down a hole, but is simply waiting to be accounted for, Zakheim said in a Feb. 14 interview with the American Forces Information Service. Complicating matters, he said, is that DoD has 674 different computerized accounting, logistics and personnel systems.

Most of the 674 systems "don't talk to one another unless somebody 'translates,'" he remarked. This situation, he added, makes it hard to reconcile financial data.

Billions of dollars of DoD taxpayer-provided money haven't disappeared, Zakheim said. "Missing" expenditures are often reconciled a bit later in the same way people balance their checkbooks every month. The bank closes out a month and sends its bank statement, he said. In the meanwhile, people write more checks, and so they have to reconcile their checkbook register and the statement.

DoD financial experts, Zakheim said, are making good progress reconciling the department's "lost" expenditures, trimming them from a prior estimated total of $2.3 trillion to $700 billion. And, he added, the amount continues to drop.

"We're getting it down and we are redesigning our systems so we'll go down from 600-odd systems to maybe 50," he explained.

"That way, we will give people not so much more money, but a comfort factor, to be sure that every last taxpayer penny is accounted for," he concluded.

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Yep, as always they find it when the REAL evidence has been destroyed...

Lucky for them

Enough BS, I'll leave this thread...

Better things to do than argue with people of set opinions.....