Deadly 'Star Wars Lightsabre' Sold To UK

Ok.

If you do not think this laser weapon should be regulated.

Than you agree hand grenades should be legal WITHOUT any Regulations at all right?

Than you agree that TOWs or RPGs should be LEGAL for ANYONE right?? Even X-Convicts???

What about C4?? Should everyone get C4??

You guys just compared this deadly laser with Matches and a Mouse cord. This is absurd come on now.

Let's compare this weapon with something a lot closer, like other real weapons. Not these jokes.

Should everyone be able to get landmines ? Jumpers and claymores too??

Do you really realize what the world would be like if any random criminal could get these weapons without any issues as a unregulated legal item??

[edit on 17-6-2010 by muzzleflash]

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I noticed that as well, i was very confused lol.

Nice avatar btw. I never used the assassins much though.

Originally posted by Awolscout
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it's incredible development and a great toy to play with,

It can cause harm and shouldn't be played around with.

eh....okay. Way to contradict yourself there.

Originally posted by Awolscout

I already heard about this and I would love to order one, it's incredible development and a great toy to play with....

That said this is no different than a gun is it? It can cause harm and shouldn't be played around with.

Isn't there a pretty strong contradiction in your position?

I'm not sure what restrictions there should be on a device like this in the US, but it has potential far beyond a firearm. It may be better to put this in a category with high explosives and rocket launchers.


[edit on 2010/6/17 by GradyPhilpott]

I saw these online and thought they were pretty cool, but I would wait until the 10 watt version came out. Looks like they may get banned, though, so maybe I should get one while I can. I was trying to put away a little tequilla money to get an iPad, but what the heck. This baby should take out a few traffic cams.

I wonder if I could take the guts out and mount it into a phaser replica. That would show those Star Wars guys.

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
Pity the poor pilots, they seem to suffer the most at the hands of fools with these sorts of toys.

PS - I GOTTA get me one of these! I feel the need to bounce a laser off the moon reflectors and verify for myself we actually went there.

While that would be a cool, fun idea and all... What would happen if that beam were to be reflected back to the wrong point?

I better not get blinded whilst looking at the moon one night, or I'll be one angry citizen.

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thanks for this topic
off to buy one, thing looks freaking cool

reply to post by muzzleflash


except for the fact that everything you just listed was designed to kill.


this was not designed to kill, or even be a weapon at all.

just because it can be used as a weapon does not mean it was designed to be one.

so stop trying to lump it in the same category as C4, claymore, and RPG's.

i think a better category would be knives, hammers, and fireworks/roadflares.

im pretty sure if it were designed to be aimed at humans, it wouldnt have the countless "WARNING - DO NOT AIM AT HUMANS" stickers all over it.

I wonder if the yobs or neds (if you’re in Scotland) will start using these as a substitute for knifes. If they don’t I am so next time one of them pulls i knife on me i can start on them with my lightsaber and Jedi mind tricks.

It is based on a weapon.

Is a "light saber" a weapon? Yes.

This is billed as a first generation "real" one.

It's not a toy, it's a weapon.

And I admit you are right that comparing it to extreme weapons was a bit over the top, my bad.

But also comparing it to knives and stuff is not very good either. Because it is a ranged weapon with the projectile speed being as fast as the speed of light(??).

I could defend my house with this thing from criminals. It's that effective.

Granted I could do the same with a baseball bat, but that is a melee weapon and it doesn't carry the same intense fear that a laser weapon will.

I suppose we cannot compare this to anything.

It really deserves it's own category. Laser weaponry.

It will have to be treated with a lot of respect.

It's even shaped like a Star Wars light saber hilt. lol. I wonder if they have different hilt models? That would be cool as hell.

Well if they never require licences for this stuff, I'll get one for home defense in the future - but that also means my potential robbers could come wielding them as well.
Frightening.

What fun would it be to take it to the mall and pop kids balloons with it. Just watch their happy faces turn to a frown and then a cry "mommy mommy my balloon popped"!!

No I change my position now.

Regulating them will only prevent me from getting one.

Black market will hook the criminals up anyway despite any regulation or law.

Let's make them cheap and require no licences.

That way we can all maintain self defense.

With regulations I wouldn't bother to get one, and it would leave me vulnerable to criminals who use the black market.

So my position is officially no regulations now.

Call me a flip flopper (lol!) if you want, but really I am willing to change my position if I come to new conclusions.

I love stories like this, I would never have heard of it, if it hadn't been for the news and now I want one! Good publicity for the death ray!

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it is not being marketed as a light sabre, or a weapon. just because the article refers to it as such does not mean the manufacture OR design is meant to be used as a weapon.

furthermore, that same company actually does have 1 model that is designed to be a weapon, and its called the "photonic disruptor" and it has a bigger light spread, and is designed to temporarily blind/stun without doing damage to the eyes.


this obviously screws up eyes beyond repair hence all the warnings, safety features and gear, and waivors. it says right there where you sign the form that its intended for people trained to use class 4 lasers, meaning people who work in an industry that involves precise cutting or ingraving etc.... class 4 lasers are not ever marketed as weapons. the "photonic disruptor" is a class 3b which is like comparing an m-80 to C-4.


its a tool. not a weapon.


yes, tools can be weapons.

::edit::
oh and it looks like the one that IS designed to be a weapon, is for military/police only.

[edit on 17-6-2010 by LurkerMan]

Originally posted by muzzleflash
Due to the fact it can harm someone if misused, I think this should probably fall under weapons licences.

So can a rolled up newspaper, sharpened pencil, dinner fork, scissors, a wet towel, any glass item that breaks, pea shooters, catapults, thin paper, most forms of transport, and just about anything you can think of... including my armpits just after my afternoon jog.

Why is everyone's first instinct always to ban? .... I thought most people wanted 'small' unobtrusive government. Perhaps we need to change the ATS logo from 'Deny Ignorance' to 'If It Moves, Ban It'

Having said all of the above, this 'light sabre' sounds really cool ... consequently there's NO WAY it won't be banned

What will happen if someone gets these and holds it direction of gas station pumps? say BP GAS PUMPS. It is danger in that case right? Just if it ignites a small spark its enough right? Is it possible using this to ignite like that?

Originally posted by Dagar

Why is everyone's first instinct always to ban? ..

I never wanted a ban though that was never my position.

My position originally was to put it on the same level as a assault rifle or something of that nature through licencing.

However I have since changed my position to full legality as per the post above a bit.

Also to the person saying this is not being marketed as a weapon, come on man they called it a light saber. A saber is a sword. A sword is a weapon.

Saying this is not a weapon is naive at best imo. Because I know how to use it as a very effective weapon lol. All you gotta do is point it.

Calling the totally non-blinding non-lethal one the "real weapon" is really a bizarre twist as well.

So the deadly blinding laser is not a weapon.
But the totally non-blinding non-lethal is?

Thats a really good joke, nice one.

Originally posted by chaosinorder
What will happen if someone gets these and holds it direction of gas station pumps? say BP GAS PUMPS. It is danger in that case right? Just if it ignites a small spark its enough right? Is it possible using this to ignite like that?

Possibly. You would need the right conditions and to hit the right spots, I'd assume.

That is why this new technology is so important now that it is becoming publicly available.

There are just countless things you can do with this stuff.

It's pretty far out.

Awesome is what this is...I bought a Green Laser from these guys about 4 years ago and paid about $100 for it. It doesnt pop balloons, but looks cool as hell at night! Listen, people can and will abuse ANYTHING, just watch youtube for a while, but I see no problem with an adult buying this.

And just so you know, there are and have been Laws on the books that deal with Laser beam strength! Just look up your city, state codes on it, you will find them. So no more screaming "OOOooo we need to regulate these dangerous, evil, bad, naughty beams of light!" It's already been done.

I love my green laser btw, and was looking at that artic blue laser giggling to myself!

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www.wickedlasers.com...

please tell me where on their website it says the word light sabre.

please tell me where in any of the descriptions of any of their products does it say it is meant as a weapon.


other than the one i already mentioned.



[edit on 17-6-2010 by LurkerMan]