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I believe we are under martial law

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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 02:30 AM
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EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.



Makes me wonder, could Obama have issued the media control executive order without anyone knowing?

Of course, they control the media now not to tell you.


See my thread here, and mods if you could delete it; I'll post the videos here.
www.abovetopsecret.com...



We might be under martial law, either way it is unamerican.




posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 02:37 AM
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While a terrifying thought, and I can understand that it might still happen, I don't think it's currently happening.

As long as the internet is still pluggin' along then they can only cover up things that are small and near the source.

At least... thats my opinion.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 02:42 AM
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Lets see you say the are controlling the media and martial law has been declared. But yet you were able to make a post about this on the internet with no problems. And there is no curfew and roads are not blocked off?







ATS is getting way to paranoid. This crap does not even make sense.
I think Sorcha Faal would be proud. And the russian northern fleet.


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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 02:48 AM
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Who knows, I found out yesterday that the UK has 300 hundred gag orders on the media in effect - and that gag order applies to talking about the gag order also...

But you aren't under martial law - and I pray you never are.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 02:57 AM
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See you people associate martial law with road blocks, complete government take over, cerfews, you are wrong.

That would cause mass chaos, only one executive order could be acted on; the rest don't have to be activated.

It's very possible that martial law could happen, and we wouldn't know.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:00 AM
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OK Einstein what exactly would Martial law look like? I think it would be road blocks, curfews, complete media blackout, the loss of gun rights, and a suspension of rights. But please tell me were I am wrong and do it with details not round about answers .



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:00 AM
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We have actually been under marital law for decades. It is a kinder gentler martial law then what many expect for now so flies under the radar, but never the less our courts are administrative military tribunals which is why you have no constitutional rights in them. And why EO's are considered law. They have shelved the Republics on favor of this rogue experiment in socialist democracy and the people have not said no because they don't understand what's happened and have no memory of living in a free Republic.

The military is actually supposed to take control until the civilian government is restored, in this case the Republic government that lies dormant. And that is exactly what has happened! The Executive Branch is the Commander and Chief of the Military and he just issue an EO when he wants something done. If that is not military dictatorial power I don' know what is! But since the people are ignorant for generations now and most believe we are supposed to have this socialist democracy the military remains in control.

Even if you don't believe all of the above and having said all that they could and probably will at some point implement the more harsher realities of martial law but they have been careful to use incrementalism so as not to arouse the public to rise up. However we are fast approaching a moment of truth so to speak where they will have to show thier full colors. Still they are incrementally putting things in place so as not to alarm the public and hoping by the time we figure it out they will have the drop on us so to speak and it will be too late.




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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:04 AM
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Our courts are nothing like a military tribunals ? Prove what you are saying. I agree we have issues in this country but martial law be declared secretly come on.

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posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:08 AM
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Originally posted by Subjective Truth
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Our courts are nothing like a military tribunals ? Prove what you are saying. I agree we have issues in this country but martial law be declared secretly come on.

[edit on 16-6-2010 by Subjective Truth]


It's no secret congress renews the emergency war powers act every year its in the congressional record. The constitution is suspended and has been since 1935. Next time you are in traffic or any court ask if you have constitutional rights. Let us know what happens.


Also they fly the military union jack signifying thier jurisdiction an use statutes instead of common law. Among many other things to numerous to list and explain on a message board.

Here is a good place to start:

www.barefootsworld.net...




[edit on 16-6-2010 by hawkiye]



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:19 AM
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Originally posted by Subjective Truth

OK Einstein what exactly would Martial law look like? I think it would be road blocks, curfews, complete media blackout, the loss of gun rights, and a suspension of rights. But please tell me were I am wrong and do it with details not round about answers .


I'll hold your hand for you then if you can't understand.

here is a list of executive orders, but not all of them; just a few for example.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10990 allows the government to take over all modes of transportation and control of highways and seaports.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10995 allows the government to seize and control the communication media.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10997allows the government to take over all electrical power, gas, petroleum, fuels and minerals.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10998 allows the government to seize all means of transportation, including personal cars, trucks or vehicles of any kind and total control over all highways, seaports, and waterways.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 10999 allows the government to take over all food resources and farms.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11000 allows the government to mobilize civilians into work brigades under government supervision.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11001 allows the government to take over all health, education and welfare functions.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11002 designates the Postmaster General to operate a national registration of all persons.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11003 allows the government to take over all airports and aircraft, including commercial aircraft.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11004 allows the Housing and Finance Authority to relocate communities, build new housing with public funds, designate areas to be abandoned, and establish new locations for populations.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11005 allows the government to take over railroads, inland waterways and public storage facilities.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11051 specifies the responsibility of the Office of Emergency Planning and gives authorization to put all Executive Orders into effect in times of increased international tensions and economic or financial crisis.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11310grants authority to the Department of Justice to enforce the plans set out in Executive Orders, to institute industrial support, to establish judicial and legislative liaison, to control all aliens, to operate penal and correctional institutions, and to advise and assist the President.

EXECUTIVE ORDER 11049 assigns emergency preparedness function to federal departments and agencies, consolidating 21 operative Executive Orders issued over a fifteen year period.







Now, under martial law these orders are issued, but not all at once. They can select one or two at a time, in this case they would need the media control order.

Now the executive order has been issued, and the first order of the new controlled media is to not discuss the fact martial law has been declared.

Do you really think the president would issue an alert saying he is declaring martial law? NO, that would cause massive uprisings and civil unrest.

At this point executive order 10995 may have been issued. Others might have been issued as well, but in a low key fashion.

Say if they issue 10990, which might have happened, because boats aren't being permitted near the area; then they wouldn't need to close down harbors or roads all over America - that would be overkill and alert the nation to the order being issued.

Understand?



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:24 AM
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Whether or not we are under martial law, the US has been under chaos and a police regime for a long time because of two main reasons. The first is "failure to obey" (aka "disorderly conduct") charges. These charges mean a police officer can make up any rule he wants and you've got to do it. If a police officer says "do 10 jumping jacks" and you do nine, that is failure to obey an officer. No law breaking required, you go to jail.

The second chaos is "contempt of court". A judge can make up laws that don't actually exist and indefinitely detain people, AND THEY DO for just about any reason what-so-ever. It is complete chaos and my idea of anarchy. For example, people have spent months in jail for not stating their name to a judge because the judge made up both that law and that punishment even though there is no law (no can there be) requiring that defendants state their name.

The concept of police and judges punishing people for anything but discrete laws is complete chaos and I don't see the difference between that and martial law!

There is also the SCOTUS system by which judges reserve the right to make a judgement for the simple reason that other judges also made the same judgement. A fact that is also chaotic and insane. So if judge A says "using plastic band-aids is a crime" because that is my interpretation of the law, then judge B can use the records to say "oh... using plastic band-aids is a crime because Judge A said so and therefore it is. No, that is why we have legislation and laws, and judges should just sit down, shut up, and only enforce existing laws. If they are not written clearly enough to be plain and obvious about what is a crime and what isn't, then congress better just re-write them!



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:26 AM
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No need to hold my hand.
You don't need martial law to make a executive order. So what exactly is your point.



People like to think the worst look around it will be your personal guide when you see military in the streets instead of cops martial law will have been declared until then relax.



We still have the right to our guns and free speech and travel ? What exactly has this Martial law taken away from us?



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:26 AM
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What about freedom of speech. What can they do about that? I think we all need to stop working so no more taxses. BK the government. I miss when Clinton was prez.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:29 AM
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Originally posted by Subjective Truth
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No need to hold my hand.
You don't need martial law to make a executive order. So what exactly is your point.



People like to think the worst look around it will be your personal guide when you see military in the streets instead of cops martial law will have been declared until then relax.



We still have the right to our guns and free speech and travel ? What exactly has this Martial law taken away from us?



You just don't get it. I am not talking about making executive orders, im talking about issuing them.

Why would military need to be in the streets if the only order issued was control of the media?



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:29 AM
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I personally think everyone in usa is already under mind control.

Who is doing it though?



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:32 AM
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Actually statutes are not even law they are corporate military policy. Law is natural law which means if there is no injured man or women there is no crime. All the rest is made up BS to bilk us of our wealth and enslave us.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:33 AM
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We agree in principle we really do. I think executive orders are unconstitutional. I hate them I really do. I love what our founding fathers had in mind and I think our country is messed up big time. And I also think they will use martial law in the end.



But I don't think it has happened yet they don't have everything lined up all the way to flick the switch and declare it.

[edit on 16-6-2010 by Subjective Truth]



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:37 AM
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Originally posted by Subjective Truth
reply to post by xstealth
 


People like to think the worst look around it will be your personal guide when you see military in the streets instead of cops martial law will have been declared until then relax.

We still have the right to our guns and free speech and travel ? What exactly has this Martial law taken away from us?


Military are in the streets using roving road blocks and stopping and shaking down citizens everyday! All LE wear military insignia and ranking system etc. It used to be the local Sheriff and his civilian posse and maybe a few deputies period in the free republics!



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:38 AM
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I doubt we're under martial law, and that the media is under government control and this is being covered up.

However, it does emphasize the fact that we don't have *RIGHTS*, we have *PRIVILEGES*. Privileges can be taken away -- and they have been, many times in the past.

Our beloved news media is corporate owned, corporate sponsored, and privately run. The government has nothing to do with that you see on the news. It's big business brain washing you.



posted on Jun, 16 2010 @ 03:42 AM
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Originally posted by Subjective Truth
reply to post by xstealth
 


We agree in principle we really do. I think executive orders are unconstitutional. I hate them I really do. I love what our founding fathers had in mind and I think our country is messed up big time. And I also think they will use martial law in the end.



But I don't think it has happened yet they don't have everything lined up all the way to flick the switch and declare it.

[edit on 16-6-2010 by Subjective Truth]


Think again here is part of the forward to Senate document 93-549


"War and Emergency Powers Acts

Since March 9, 1933, the United States has been in a state of declared national emergency. In fact, there are now in effect four presidentially-proclaimed states of national emergency: In addition to the national emergency declared by President Roosevelt in 1933, there are also the national emergency proclaimed by President Truman on December 16, 1950, during the Korean conflict, and the states of national emergency declared by President Nixon on March 23, 1970, and August 15, 1971.

These proclamations give force to 470 provisions of Federal law. These hundreds of statutes delegate to the President extraordinary powers, ordinarily exercised by the Congress, which affect the lives of American citizens in a host of all-encompassing manners. This vast range of powers, taken together, confer enough authority to rule the country without reference to normal Constitutional processes.

Under the powers delegated by these statutes, the President may: seize property; organize and control the means of production; seize commodities; assign military forces abroad; institute martial law; seize and control all transportation and communication; regulate the operation of private enterprise; restrict travel; and, in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all American citizens..."


www.barefootsworld.net...



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