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Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
reply to post by Chevalerous
I cannot see how these images are images "The Israeli Army does not want you to see." Nothing in this seems to conflict with the official Israeli story of what happened.
The video depicts
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Originally posted by Lemon.Fresh
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Funny how the "peace activists" are so riled up and ready to fight:
www.youtube.com...
Now what is the lesson we have learned?
1.) Don't try and run a blockade, and if you are going to try, don't state it publicly
2.) Don't antagonize the troops that are boarding your ship
www.youtube.com...
3.) Don't put your hand in the gators mouth, then cry when he bites it off.
Originally posted by Snarf
reply to post by At0mZer0
What needs done about Israel? They are protecting themselves.
It'd be no different than if here in the US, Mexico was sending trucks full of food across the border, but refused to stopped for inspection so that we could make sure there were no drugs, or illegal aliens aboard.
But, i guess if you're anti israel...then you'll never change. I just, personally, think you should have a legitimate reason to be for a change.
Originally posted by astrogolf
reply to post by Chevalerous
The muslims got what they deserved. Just because you dislike jews doesn't mean you can make stuff up. Clearly, they violated the blockade, attacked the idf with clubs and weapons, and were dealt with accordingly. By the way, these are the same folks who would like to force your conversion to islam and kill you if you don't comply. Grow up.
Originally posted by Chevalerous
In this video you can clearly hear gunfire and fire-bursts from automatic weapons in the background.
Paintball rifles, my arse!
Originally posted by Snarf
reply to post by At0mZer0
What needs done about Israel? They are protecting themselves.
Originally posted by hotpinkurinalmint
reply to post by Chevalerous
I cannot see how these images are images "The Israeli Army does not want you to see." Nothing in this seems to conflict with the official Israeli story of what happened.
The video depicts
1. Commandos in a boat pulling alongside the flotilla ship- Israel does not deny this
2. A helicopter overhead- the footage the Israeli's released shows commandos being lowered from a helicopter..how does this conflict with the official Israeli story.
3. People who are wounded...Israel does not deny people were killed and wounded during the fracas.
4. Someone on a loud speaker saying "We are civilians." Just because somebody on a boat claims to be an unarmed civilian, it does not necessarily mean they are. How would this conflict with Israeli accounts?
Originally posted by A Conscience
I don't know if this has been posted before.
www.richardsilverstein.com...
The video clip shows IDF kicking someone (obscured from view), speculated as being Furkan Dogan, and then shot a few times. It also includes comments from a weapons expert as to what type of weapon was used in the murder of the activist. Quite a damming evidence of IDF brutality.
It is not a very clear video considering the circumstance, but the relevant footage is around 2.23 of the clip.
So, there are two possibilities:
(1) these commandos are abusing some lying on the ground by firing some sort of crowd-control weapon, a kind of paintball gun on steroids (e.g. An FN303, although I don’t think that’s what this is), at him at a range of a foot or so, or
(2) this is an assassination weapon, an updated De Lisle carbine or some equivalent silenced, single-shot pistol-calibre weapon, and they have killed him.
My money is somewhat on the former, but no firm conclusions at this point.