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reply posted on 2-6-2010 @ 02:00 PM by schrodingers dog
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I think I understand what you're trying to say silo ... i guess in your opinion the commercial should either commit to homosexuality openly (by having the father know of his son's sexuality) or not tackle the subject at all.

But we have to take the audience and McDonalds' corporate culture into consideration. They are by and large a very conservative company, not really the kind to push the envelope. In a sense this ad makes perfect sense for them for a European audience ... they portray themselves as not being afraid to broach the subject without actually saying "we accept homosexuality."

It is manipulative, cynical, and ethically weak from both sides of the coin really ... in fact more so if one were gay simply because (as you stated) it reinforces the dogma that homosexuality should remain hidden from one's loved ones.

But, if only for the fact that we're talking about it, it is effective from their POV ...

Ugh ... it's McDonalds, what do we really expect?

I don't know ... as a straight man having spent half my summers on Super Paradise Beach the whole conversation seems ridiculously outdated.

[edit on 2 Jun 2010 by schrodingers dog]


reply posted on 2-6-2010 @ 02:18 PM by silo13
reply to post by schrodingers dog


I think I understand what you're trying to say silo ... i guess in your opinion the commercial should either commit to homosexuality openly (by having the father know of his son's sexuality) or not tackle the subject at all.


Preferably, yes, not tackle at all - But if they must - sans the stereotypical classic young son hiding a 'relationship' from a lady-killer father, etc.

Have to say, if I were gay - I'd be ready to boycott the place.



Thanks
peace



reply posted on 2-6-2010 @ 03:21 PM by Benevolent Heretic
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As I said, part of my purpose here is to understand where you're coming from. I'll re-read your posts a few more times and see if I can get it through my head.

I'm sorry I presumed to tell you what you think. I was obviously mistaken and it's not my place to do that, anyway. I apologize. Thank you for your patience.


reply posted on 3-6-2010 @ 01:32 AM by silo13
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As I said, part of my purpose here is to understand where you're coming from. I'll re-read your posts a few more times and see if I can get it through my head.


Not a problem - I don't think we'd have a hard time understanding each other at all if we were face to face. I just blame it on the forum. Not ATS, lol, I mean the means of communicating via forum.

So, if you're ever in my neighborhood let's go to McDonald's for a sit down.

(evil grin)

peace!

Added note: We did get a McDonald's here a few years ago much to my surprise. It's in a town about an hour from me. The commercials are funny as H-E-two stix.
Imagine the difficulty the advertising agencies have trying to twist the mind set of a culture that thrives on fresh veggies, fruit and pasta into convincing them to lunch over a Happy Meal is the way to go!


reply posted on 4-6-2010 @ 01:59 PM by weedwhacker
reply to post by silo13



You are a confiction, silo!! While I appreciate that you felt some disdain at the word "queer", you should know that it isn't always considered a pejorative slur. It depends on context.

(It is only a word, after all. Sticks and stones, all that stuff....)

Remember the slogan? (How old is this...I guess I'm dating myself...no, NOT 'dating' myself ...er...showing my age...)

Slogan is (was) - "We're here, we're queer! Get used to it!"


Did you notice that Ms. Kennedy was spokesperson for www.egale.ca... ??





[edit on 4 June 2010 by weedwhacker]


reply posted on 5-6-2010 @ 01:38 AM by silo13
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Did you notice that Ms. Kennedy was spokesperson for egale


Yes! That's what freaked me for a bit.

And yeah, sticks and stones and all that but still - I cannot even IMAGINE calling a young person a 'queer'! (I hate even typing the word)!

It just sound so Archy Bunker! So ignorant.



It also reminds me of when I was growing up and people of color could call themselves and their friends the *N* word - but WATCH OUT NELLIE if anyone of any other color did! I take it in this case it's the same kind'a thing...


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