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TR-3B Antigravity Physics Explained

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posted on May, 15 2010 @ 10:52 AM
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I'm just saying that few little calculations can probably prove whole thing to be a hoax. If you want to prove hoax once and for all you must have solid evidence to close forum case.
I'm open and I don't take sides in this matter. I'm neither claiming this to be a hoax or real.
In my earlier post I made just my quick drafts without further analyzing whole thing in detail. Best way to prove this to be a hoax is to prove physical or chemical inconsistencies in material provided. As I said in my quick draft on whole thing power source is interesting as powering whole thing up would take enormous amount of energy. Cooling systems, creation of that kind of pressure and energy to speed up mercury plasma that's interesting. Has anyone heard anything about power source?




posted on May, 15 2010 @ 12:06 PM
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I found this photo:
www.abovetopsecret.com...
on another thread.
But there are others that show a circular design in the center.
Based on first levitation then side movement as suggested by one
air ship designer the main 'motor' or lifting engine should be
central to the craft. Hence so many circular non planes have been
imagined or witnessed.
Movement to any side should be possible in a triangle craft.



posted on May, 15 2010 @ 12:50 PM
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"Has anyone heard anything about power source?"

How about Zero Point Field Energy as a power source? Like discussed here: www.gctspace.com...

"...calculations indicate one cup of empty space contains enough energy to boil away all of the Earth's oceans."

That sounds like plenty of energy to me.




[edit on 5/15/2010 by Larryman]



posted on May, 15 2010 @ 01:14 PM
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Pressure or the force to lift and move any non plane air ship
comes from the electro static induction into the eccentrically charged
air and ether for propulsion.
The induction requires a lot of wire and AC generator that can
be driven by a Papp engine.
Therefore atomic gas and ether principles run the whole operation.



posted on May, 15 2010 @ 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by SpeDeZo
reply to post by Bedlam
 


I hadn't had enough time review whole thing, but you forgot pressure.


No, not "is it a gas", the question is "is it a PLASMA", which is a bit different. You have to strip off electrons to form a plasma. And the colder it is, and the denser it is, the faster the electrons will recombine to form neutral mercury gas. It won't stay a plasma at 150K, and if you get it hot enough to form a plasma with any halflife at all it won't be superconducting.



As the Mercury is metal you could possibly speed it up using powerful magnets.


Mercury's not magnetic. You could move a plasma with a MHD drive using magnets, but a time-varying magnetic field across a plasma would heat it. And then it won't stay 150K.



There is one more thing. I think you won't be able to defy gravity compleatly
without increasing costs enormously.


Ah, right. Well, in "MFD" lore, it does "defy gravity", but in real life, the project that the MFD story was promulgated to cover doesn't "defy gravity", it reduces inertia by reducing apparent mass.



posted on May, 15 2010 @ 03:57 PM
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Try extreme voltage without any magnets.
Once you set up an extreme voltage field the ether flow can be
wiped around by magnets or human disturbance.
However encapsulating the crew and motor in a ship big anti
gravity things start to happen.
So no plasma or magnetic field.
AG is working in a whole new ball game.



posted on Oct, 26 2010 @ 08:17 PM
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off-topic post removed to prevent thread-drift


 



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 05:32 PM
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No magnetic vortex, No mercury, No plasma.
All wrong.

Gravity might be wave attraction as force waves work for the
ship Tesla made which is the same principle that would have to be
used on every single ship to duplicate the performance of ships
in any sighting.



posted on Oct, 30 2010 @ 06:29 PM
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Here is a very clear picture of a TR3B

Notice how it is painted the same colour as its surroundings for camouflage

commons.wikimedia.org...:Triumph_TR3B.jpg



posted on Oct, 31 2010 @ 02:08 AM
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Originally posted by Bedlam

Ah, right. Well, in "MFD" lore, it does "defy gravity", but in real life, the project that the MFD story was promulgated to cover doesn't "defy gravity", it reduces inertia by reducing apparent mass.


Which of the following are violated:

a) weak equivalence principle (all matter in free fall behaves identically regardless of mass)

a') passive gravitational mass equals active gravitational mass

b) Einstein equivalence principle (The outcome of any local non-gravitational experiment in a freely falling laboratory is independent of the velocity of the laboratory and its location in spacetime.)

c) strong equivalence principle (The outcome of any local experiment (gravitational or not) in a freely falling laboratory is independent of the velocity of the laboratory and its location in spacetime.)

d) E^2 = c^2p^2 + m^2 c^4



posted on Oct, 31 2010 @ 04:47 PM
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Right, the TR3B story is a joke. Really? A 600 foot RECONNAISSANCE aircraft? A 600 ft aircraft wouldnt be really good for recon, as well..anyone could see it from miles away.


Secondly, the "story" behind it is that it reduces mass and intertia by using Mercury cooled to 150k in a ring pressurized to 250,000 atmospheres.
at 250,000 atmopsheres and 150k mercury would be a solid. Not a plasma as the tr3b story claims.



posted on Oct, 31 2010 @ 07:31 PM
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Originally posted by mbkennel
Which of the following are violated:


The real question is, are we in a Machian or deSitter universe? If it's Machian, then from whence does inertia originate? Is it all local, or a non-local phenomenon caused by distant mass?

In other words, in an empty universe, how fast am I going? If I accelerate, how fast am I going NOW?



posted on Oct, 31 2010 @ 08:17 PM
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please watch this first
www.abovetopsecret.com...

this explains the theory for the tr3 b IMHO


hope this helps
xp



posted on Nov, 1 2010 @ 12:15 AM
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There’s no question that this happened. And De Brouwer, a colonel at the time, did go to the highest levels of other NATO countries to find out if this was some sort of test flight by Russia or the United States, and he was absolutely told that that it absolutely wasn’t. And in fact, documents show that United States officials wanted to find out more about it from him. That’s a mystery that’s never been solved.
Source

I don't think the Belgium Govt/Military was amused. This is an act of war if it was a US super secret techno wonder device. What purpose does it serve? If that thing crashes, how are they going to keep the technology a secret unless the nuclear reactor doubles as a self destruct... which is probably what would be needed to destroy a giant like that. The scenarios don't make sense. It just doesn't add up.



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