Do Americans Have Any REAL Allies?

~notice the title says Americans...not America.

In a world that seems like the following and many more groups are enemies of Americans-

* "Terrorists"
* NWO
* Globalists
* Big banks
* Iran
* China
* Illegal immigrants
* the Police State
* Israel
* FEMA
* Russia
* Venezuela
* MSM
* pretty much the vast majority of people on earth....the VAST majority.

Where does an honest American have to turn for help?

When I was younger, maybe back in the late 90's I would have fought by the American's side if they'd ever gotten into trouble.

But now? Not a chance. Infact I can see a lot of very good reasons for remaining neutral or shifting more towards China. And not alot of good reasons for staying allies with the USA.

In the 1954 there were made a huge deal for the entire world. All the leaders from the leading rich countries were apart of that meeting. Usa\Canada\Mexico\Iraq\Iran\China\Germany +more.

They were sitting on information that they couldnt inform to the public. They had to make change,huge changes so that the earth resources would be used proper(the rests thats left),Economic\War changes.

You see when the world stumbles upon a economic crise, the only option in the long run is WAR. War=Money,money to start over again.

One of the deals wich were made when coming to economy was.

Eu (european union-own Valuta)
American Union( Amero-Own Valuta)
Asian union( Own valuta?see cnn to be certain)
-- After some years with this economic tactic and having gotten everything "Stable". The economy will become unstable again (much due of the resources of the planet)..

So they need a war- A war all the leaders of this planet is AWARE of,and something wich must be done if we are going to live in the long run.

After this the plan is making a new union called NWO- Wich all the leaders of the world also is AWARE of.

Humans in general have also over time been sacrifised for the better good of survival. In history this is normal and important part.



After this--Well that is a secret

reply to post by belial259


Thanks for your honesty.

Anybody out there willing to help Americans?

you forgot some other enemies:

foreigners
the President
the government
minorities
the census
Democrats
intelligent people
and you know the rest

so, in short Americans have no allies.

I noticed the title says Americans not America - so I'm not really sure about all those groups identified as enemies of our people.
One-on-one, people of all nationalities share our humanity and on an individual basis, I've experienced a great deal of assistance from folks in other countries I've visited. Of course, I don't discuss religion/politics or foreign policy in public either in or out of the country as I have a very strong self-preservation instinct.

As for where honest Americans can go for help - we (the honest ones) should be able to rely on each other (not the govt).
I'm glad to help anytime Signals!

gj

I know the title says americans, but ill talk about america. It seems the vast majority acts like their military is so good they dont need allies.
"Ohh, our army can have all of Iran done in a few ahours"

"Iran cant sink a USS Nimitz"

"Iran has a navy? 2 speedboats, and 1 frigate. Whoa man whoa, thats INTENSE"

"Iran doesnt have super hyper koo1 airplanes liek we do..."

"we are unbeatable just because we spend 18% of our GDP just to find new ways to kill iranians..."

Get the point? Your military is overrated. Im willing to bet that in a war against Iran, they will give a hell of a better run than you would expect.
Yeah, the Us might be developing 'nanosuits' that turn you into a superhuman, but who needs bulletproof nanosuits whan you have bulletproof Qur'ans strapped to your chest.

I'm British and we tend to help Americans out as much as we can, during Hurricane Katrina plenty of charities were organised here to help raise money to help out those affected. We are your allies in Iraq and Afghanistan and whenever anything kicks off in your country it tends to hit the breaking news here. We help you guys out as we know you would do the same for us.

Personally I support every good man. What I can not support are foreign (and even domestic, but I'm not expert at this field) policies of US administrations - for decades.

Maybe I misunderstood OP question. Are we looking for institutionalized support? Then there is one: many "think tanks" over Europe support US administration policies. Are they supporting Americans? No. Ordinary people support ordinary people. Criminals support criminals.

There are many accusations of "anti-Americanism" at Europe. It should be properly called anti-WhiteHouseism or anti-Pentagonism. It have nothing to do with American public (yeah, we are joking about Americans but we are not hating them as people).

Americans have few billions allies over all the world.

I don't think any country has TRUE allies, countries and politics are not stagnant, always evolving and shifting. Countries either have enemies or potential enemies in the end.

reply to post by Signals


Nope. America has managed to either piss off or alienate most everyone else.

We've become way to arrogant and fixated on our own agendas. Sad but seems to be true.

Ther are no allies because there really is no AMERICA,the old days are gone,a global democracy beacons,no screams to be heard.

There are already no borders,if you eliminate money there truly are no borders or popcorn governments,one global army means no more wars,it means that those millions of people and trillions of dollars worth of economic output will be used to help equalise the human condition on the planet as a whole.

America needs this change as much as anyone else.

America and all countries as we know them are on the way out.


We just need the top ten to come together unilaterally and the rest is history,i guess what we really need is the right man or woman to become the catalyst for this growth.


lets say,America,Britain,China,India,France,the EU,Canada,Russia,Ukraine,just these for now--all told the world tomorrow that they had formed an alliance in the name of HUMANITY AS A WHOLE ,and were going to disable the military of all world governments starting with the smallest little pests and working their way up to themselves.

What do you think would happen,obviously we would have a new world order in less than ten years and humanity would move forward.

No more wars,no more killing,a true democracy,and we all know very well that in a true democracy execution of certain undesirable criminals is ALWAYS VOTED IN,so we will have far less crime,certainly no recitivism.

The difference is that no one will be executed unless they commit a crime against humanity like taking a human life,and because no man will weild the power to influence using religon or money,crime will disappear as we know it,no money no theft,ect,ect,ect.

America has a lot of allies,America has nurtured democracy WHICH IS WHAT WILL LEAD HUMANITY INTO THE FUTURE--LET NO ONE FORGET WHO CARRIED THIS SEED PLANTED BY THE ROMANS.

reply to post by Everton


Dont kid yourself. Like the americns said when there was the big hoo-haa about argentina and the falklands, the americans were pretty adament that they werent going to get involved.

America has no allies that WANT to help them, they have allies that HAVE NO CHOICE to help them. By helping in a war you create money and revenue so it is sensible to do so.

American presidencies and military are to blame for the image everyone else has of america. Its portrayed far too much as the perfect society where you can do whatever you want if you try hard enough and its all thanks to one thing.

HOLLYWOOD

This is precisely why in the other thread about 'Sum up America in 1 word', my response was FAKE.

I just simply see a country in desperate need of guidance but are too proud to accept it.

People judge a whole people based on the politics of their leaders. Given that fact, the US image suffered more during Bush's 8 years than at any time before in US history.

I've lived years in the States, I have a ton of friends there, and I love the varied landscapes and nature of the country, how open and friendly a lot of people are, and the fact that they know how to have fun. That hasn't changed.

Having said that, since 9/11 the Evangelicals and far-right fear-mongering block has seen a revival. Those people are a minority in the US, but they scream very loudly and are trying to mainstream racism (Obama-Hitler signs during conventions, etc.) and intolerance by creating fear of a whole people (Muslims) based on the actions of a few fundamentalists. They are HURTING the image of the US internationally, and therefore the American people. And the sad part is, they're trying to sell you their agenda as being "patriotic".

The economic crisis didn't help either. People aren't doing that well at the moment, and in situations like that, they like looking for a scapegoat. People are very receptive to conditioning during times like that, so if Palin & Co blames Muslims, Socialism, or some other key-fear-mongering-keyword that's been indoctrinated into people who base their opinion on emotions rather than rationality, people will eat it up like candy. People in Germany had a tough time before WW2, and guess what...they were fed the illusion of a scapegoat...the jews.

Think about it: Why is it that Bush got away with the Patriot act and other limitations on the freedom of the US citizens? His measures certainly weren't totally in line with the constitution, and even if they were, they certainly were a limitation of people's freedom. But guess what, the people who are now in the TP, as well as their republican friends kept quiet!! Anything Obama did up until now is almost nothing compared to what Bush got away with...yet his actions are compared to actions of Stalin and Hitler by the very same people who weren't bothered about wiretaps without warrants!! What a bunch of hypocrites!

So in summary: US politics have taken a turn for the worse after 9/11, and they have hurt the image of the US internationally. That doesn't change the fact however that the idiots are a minority, and the US is a great country with a lot of friendly people, great nature and landscapes, and a lot of potential power to do good in the world.

If the US wants true support and understanding back, it all depends on how they act over the coming years. Not listening to the Evangelists and fear-mongering hardliners would be a good start...don't listen to an arguably dumb minority and start restoring your true self.

[edit on 1-5-2010 by MrXYZ]

See the internet woke people upto america and what it really does. Hollywood played a massive part in giving us a glossed version of america that does not exist outside manhatten and hollywood, and washington.

Hollywood has proven to be very powerful in destroying so many truths and it can such a powerful force for lies.

But i agree with op, i do not like america and i would never choose to go there in my life. I saw how it treated my hero kurt cobain, and my other hero maradona was found out in 1994 world cup in america, and i knew they where just a bunch of hypocrites.

For me the anglo american empire has ruined so much and this idea of bringing democracy is a con. We saw how obama got elected in a free election for him, with no rep nominee wanting to even bother, so they gave him a loser called mccain to run against. Good image for democracy.

The US would have the majority of the world behind them if Bush had acted like he said he would during his campaign.



Turns out he did the EXACT opposite of everything he claimed to be his core beliefs. Well done Sir!

Friend, as a fellow American I will tell you who our true allies are.

Mossberg

Glock

Smith and Wesson

Colt

Beretta

Benelli

Kel-Tec

Remington

Ruger

Taurus

Weatherby

Winchester

Note, you should keep your allies close at all times.

reply to post by ventian


Prime example of thinking that completely obliterated the US image internationally

I mean seriously, who can take a statement like that serious, lol.

reply to post by ventian


Remember the post is about American Citizens not the country, therefore your weapons would be useless. If you travelled to most countries you'd find the hospitality is great and welcoming, you dont have as many enemies as you may think so i wouldn't go feeling sorry for yourselves just yet.

Originally posted by MrXYZ
The US would have the majority of the world behind them if Bush had acted like he said he would during his campaign.

Na, the internet would of caught on, some of us where complaining about clinto too, and the santions in iraq. Americas image was just based on hollywood.