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What Im seeing is that without that satellite, NASA could not have pulled off the hoax the way they wanted to.
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by FoosM
What Im seeing is that without that satellite, NASA could not have pulled off the hoax the way they wanted to.
The Intelsats are in geosynchronous orbits. The earthstations would know the signals were not coming from the Moon.
So what if they knew.
They were in control by NASA.
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by FoosM
So what if they knew.
They were in control by NASA.
Ah, so you've finally given up on the ridiculous "compartmentalization" idea. All 400,000 were "in on it now.
What!? 400,000 people were working NASCAM, er sorry, NASCOM & MSFN?
How did they fit all those people in those dishes?
Your kidding right ?
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by FoosM
What!? 400,000 people were working NASCAM, er sorry, NASCOM & MSFN?
How did they fit all those people in those dishes?
Your kidding right ?
This is the cheese that sat in the house that Jack built. This is the rat that ate the cheese that sat in the house that Jack built. This is the cat that killed the rat that ate the cheese that sat in the house that Jack built....
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by FoosM
What!? 400,000 people were working NASCAM, er sorry, NASCOM & MSFN?
How did they fit all those people in those dishes?
Your kidding right ?
This is the cheese that sat in the house that Jack built. This is the rat that ate the cheese that sat in the house that Jack built. This is the cat that killed the rat that ate the cheese that sat in the house that Jack built....
143:50:39 Cernan: Yeah. Don't take that one. Get it up as we come around. You get it?
143:50:41 Schmitt: There we go.
143:50:42 Cernan: Okay. That's the one we want. And you got the valley?
143:50:47 Schmitt: Yeah. Keep going.
[The whirring sound of film advancing in Jack's camera can be heard.]
143:50:48 Cernan: Okay.
143:50:49 Schmitt: Keep turning around over there, and I'll get that Scarp. That's beautiful.
143:50:54 Cernan: Isn't that something? Man, you talk about a mysterious looking place. (Pause)
143:51:03 Schmitt: They can cut some frames - some parts of those pictures out - and make a nice photograph. (Laughing) (With the) TV camera, (and) maps (in the way). (Pause)
Originally posted by webstra
Apollo 11........one photo every 15 seconds
Apollo 12........one photo every 27 seconds
Apollo 14........one photo every 62 seconds
Apollo 15........one photo every 44 seconds
Apollo 16........one photo every 29 seconds
Apollo 17........one photo every 26 seconds
Especially the 15 seconds of the Apollo 11 is fantastic, every 15 seconds a photo, during the first flight !
originally posted by jra
But back to Jack Whites PPM calculations. His method makes no sense. With Apollo 11 for example, I see no good reason why he takes the 31 minutes out of the total 2h31m EVA to calculate the PPM (other than to skew the results to his liking of course). Seeing as how the 121 photos were taken throughout the entire EVA, it would make sense to use the full 2h31m time for the calculation don't you think? And when you do that, you get 0.8 PPM instead of 3.90 PPM. Plus the later mission, both astronauts shared the task of photographing and documenting, so if you redo the calculations for Apollo 17, which has the most photos taken for it's 3 EVA's, and you use the total EVA time and divide that between the two astronauts then you get 0.75 PPM instead of 2.35 PPM.
Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter
It's easy to get a top job with NASA when Richard Nixon's brother is doing the hiring at Bellcomm.
Historical point of interest: in March of 1967 Richard Nixon was not president. In fact, he was in what historians sometimes called his "wilderness years," when it seemed unlikely that he would ever have a future career in politics. I would have thought you knew that.
In 1974, Ed Nixon was the first witness for the defense in the Maurice Stans and John N. Mitchell conspiracy trial.[2] He contradicted the testimony of two of the Government's chief witnesses. Later that year, the staff of the Senate Watergate committee disclosed additional information to support the charge that Charles Rebozo gave or lent part of a $100,000 "campaign contribution" to President Nixon's personal secretary Rose Mary Woods, and to Edward and Donald Nixon. Source Wkipedia
For the next hour, Mr. Nixon talks about his extended family and their influence on his brother, his thoughts on the 37th president's political opponents, his own work on the Apollo Project ... Source C-SPAN
C-SPAN: Tell us about the Apollo 14 launch...
Ed Nixon: Yes, we were quite away from the launch pad, all kinds of dignitaries , special passes, I was surprised, I was just a nobody, I was one of those 400,000 people who worked on Apollo...for NASA... for manned space flight... "
I went to NASA Headquarters [Washington, D.C.] at the library and asked them, “Where are the lunar photographs?” They told me in such and such room. I went to that room, and there were piles of Lunar Orbiter pictures just like the ones with Don Beattie. Totally disorganized, and just shoved all over. I went to the librarian and said, “These need organization. Can we have some tables? We’ll fix them.”
He said, “Sure, what do you need?”
I said, “Nine tables.”
He said, “Sure. They’re going to be ready 9:00 in the morning.” So he did. The following day I had nine tables ready to go. I had brought in clean sheets from the house to brush the dust off the papers and organize them. It took me three days to organize all the pictures that had been collected by Lunar Orbiter then and put them in stacks by the mission and by the numbers and all like that. I began to look at them.
Ok.
This is the LM
What? How the hell could they hear the camera?
Sound is a mechanical wave that is an oscillation of pressure transmitted through a solid, liquid, or gas, composed of frequencies within the range of hearing and of a level sufficiently strong to be heard, or the sensation stimulated in organs of hearing by such vibrations.
Anyway, can somebody tell me what that "flag" is supposed to be before I conclude its a "flag" used in movies?
, I was just a nobody, I was one of those 400,000 people who worked on Apollo...for NASA... for manned space flight... "
Ed Nixon caught using the 400,000 fallacy. But he was a very special. He hired Farouk el Baz at Bellcomm in 1967. el Baz personally sorted and organized and archived all the lunar orbiter photos because NASA was too stupid to understand the concept of sorting, organizing and archiving photos in 1967.
Originally posted by ProudBird
SO, the camera mechanism, when it operated, was being grasped in the Astronaut's hands. The mechanical activity that produced the "wave" of vibration, that we interpret as "sound", was transmitted via the solids of the camera body, to the solids of the gloves, and then to the air that was present inside the pressure suit....lastly, to the highly sensitive microphone that was part of the communications set-up. And, this fact is reflected in the notes, in the transcript. They didn't just make up that detail --- it was put in the transcript because it was heard by those doing the transcribing, and they probably thought it pertinent to mention.
Additionally, those same mechanical "wave" vibrations could be carried along the actual physical suit itself, besides just in the air within, to ultimately be picked up on the mic.
Originally posted by ProudBird
By the way....there is ample evidence. Tons and tons and tons of it, of the reality of Apollo.
Originally posted by ProudBird
143:51:03 Schmitt: They can cut some frames - some parts of those pictures out - and make a nice photograph. (Laughing) (With the) TV camera, [color=gold](and) maps (in the way). (Pause)
Seems eminently reasonable to presume that Jack, the one taking the pictures, would have noticed the occasions when their maps managed to sneak into frame,