There Is NO Such Thing As Indigo Children (Pseudo-Science Ones). Yup It's True.

I respectfully disagree after personally witnessing the powers of an "Indigo Child". Perhaps it's just that she's gifted naturally and it's just coincidence that she was born within the time frame of the Indigo child.

Originally posted by tothetenthpower

Descriptions of indigo children include the belief that they are empathetic, curious, strong-willed, independent, and often perceived by friends or family as being weird; possess a clear sense of self-definition and purpose; and also exhibit a strong inclination towards spiritual matters from early childhood.

Indigo children have also been described as having a strong feeling of entitlement, or "deserving to be here." Other alleged traits include a high intelligence quotient, an inherent intuitive ability, and resistance to authority.[2][4]

According to Tober and Carroll, indigo children function poorly in conventional schools due to their rejection of authority, being smarter than their teachers and a lack of response to guilt-, fear- or manipulation-based discipline.[5]

this division sounds to me like the division sheeple/"real" people...

me i was like this as a kid, and still am as an adult but it is very first time i hear about "indigo" children.

(being seen as weird, rejection of authority, personal interest for spiritual matter, telepathic experience...)

i strongly agree with you about every human should be this way!

However is that the way the sheeple is and behave ? unfortunately no...

which leave us with that terrible conclusion : sheeple people have lost their humanity

and that question: how we awake them to human again ?

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Descriptions of indigo children include the belief that they are empathetic, curious, strong-willed, independent, and often perceived by friends or family as being weird; possess a clear sense of self-definition and purpose; and also exhibit a strong inclination towards spiritual matters from early childhood.

Indigo children have also been described as having a strong feeling of entitlement, or "deserving to be here." Other alleged traits include a high intelligence quotient, an inherent intuitive ability, and resistance to authority.

This is ALL indigo children. HUMANS of above average intelligence and perception. Labelling these children as anything else is doing them a giant disservice.

~Keeper

Your research on this is pathetic, OF COURSE you don't believe in the Indigo "phenomenon" if you think this is all it's about. Wikipedia...
(rude and arrogant? yup, responding to your title and complete lack of knowledge on the subject)

Here's a list that myself (a person who matches the list of typical behaviors which Crystal people exhibit) and two people I know who consider themselves Indigos, created.

This is a list of common behaviors and characteristics that are simply NOT common everyday things like "strong feeling of entitlement"
What would you do if you had these? Difficult to fit in...

Crystal characteristics:
Crystal, silver, and opalescent/ iridescent shards in the third structural level of the aura
Purple radiance in second watercolor level of aura

Natural healer, able to perform as Reiki II/III before ever knowing what Reiki is

Innate, natural ability from very early childhood to astral travel and remote view
Can operate in physical world while being astral

Bad allergies, OCD behaviors/ticks, many symptoms of Asperger’s Syndrome, severe ADD/ADHD

Very particular purpose of bringing teaching, strength and support to others
Very strong innate drive to create electrical devices which heal, scan, and balance

Tend to study non-typical information such as NeuroChemistry, NeuroAnatomy, world religions, Philosophy, Eastern philosophy, Native American and indigenous religions, etc

Extremely sensitive to ambient energy/atmosphere/feel outside of self

Ability to help souls cross-over
Ability to cease poltergeists, open/close vortices

Innate knowledge of Karma for many purposes including whether to heal someone or not

Genius level IQ
“Old soul”
Natural teacher
Passionate, focused, honest

alien abduction experiences common
Can access Akkashic Hall of Records

Unhealthy necessity for justice

Can view and manipulate chakras, meridians, and auras, as well as pain and/or anomalies of self and others at any distance or local

Can tune in to people and spirits by hearing a name or description

Can recognize state of consciousness by feel/awareness (sleeping, dreaming, awake, etc) from a distance

Able to perform channeling of numerous types of beings/spirits

Generally aware of reincarnation and sometimes of past lives of self and others

Able to sense Shumann Resonance during EEG experiments (humans not supposed to be able to do this)
Able to hear dog whistles, sense infrared

Look younger than actual age

Able to sense other “like people” [indigos/crystals] worldwide at any time

Aware of focused energy such as staring
e.g. when someone focuses his or her voice "at you" so you know they're speaking to you, but on multiple forms of energies/frequencies

Precognition and numerous types of ESP are common
Strong use of ESP on a daily basis [example given, humming a song then it happens to be playing when entering the store]

Instinctively break up fights and allow peace

Fearless
No fear of death
Can cross over to the plane where souls reside; both souls not yet human and those who have returned

Can sense and call upon angels
Can cause angels to take action

Can enter dream world at will
Can influence own dreams
Can enter dreams of others (but almost NEVER any need to do it)

Can appear as any form in dreams
Can appear in any form to ghosts or spirits
Can appear in any form in astral realms

Have almost fully active body in second level astral, can change at will
Have open eyes and ears in third level astral, can change at will

Able to perform telekinesis (3 times total)

Real proclivity for sweets! Not sure if this is related haha

Recognition and ability to balance or dissolve Karma through direct action, change of behavior, or dissolution

Hundreds of different abilities in the occult – mainly protection and sensing, cleansing, and banishment
Able to sense cording, stop cording, and create cords if needed

Can imbue objects with energy
Can energetically clean objects (Rabbi thought it had been blessed/Kosher)

Can sense people’s intentions on occasion

*** Please treat this as copywrited information; in process of publication. ***


[edit on 21-4-2010 by Thermo Klein]

I envision humanity like this, which provides me a very real ability to not have judgment about who has abilities and who currently doesn't.

Reality is "out there" it is consciousness and love. The human mind and body sort of block our connection to consciousness and love. Having this physical body we tend to think of ourselves as individuals (only); not connected to everything by energy, purpose, and cause-and-effect.

As people start to become more aware of consciousness and love they naturally adapt the ability for extra sensory perception and dozens/hundreds of other things that currently the general population think of as miracles.

There is no judgment by Indigos and Crystals that I've ever met. Just a knowing smile or nod, a small conversation, then on to the real stuff.

I'm sorry there's so much misunderstanding about this phenomenon, and I completely understand the feeling that we are arrogant - but THAT, arrogance, is what is being used as a label here.

[edit on 21-4-2010 by Thermo Klein]

reply to post by Thermo Klein


All that and you haven't saved the world yet?

I think you should try. I'd do it, but unfortunately I'm not as gifted as you are.

What else could you have possibly been granted these gifts for, but to help save the world?

At least call upon some angels to take action for us, man. There are horrible things happening all over the place.

If I wake up tomorrow and this BS is still going on, I'm blaming you.

reply to post by eMachine


who am I?

I'm "Thermo Klein" - that means NO ONE! Do I get anything out of this? I'm giving my opinion like everyone else on this site - keep your insults.

Just because someone has a strong opinion about a certain subject that does not make it so. Because you cannot see something, that does not mean that it does not exist. Have you ever seen Mount Everest? If not, how do you know it's there? Just because someone told you that it was there, or you saw pictures of what people say is Mount Everest? Denying or denigrating something because you cannot see the Indigo aura does not mean that auras do not exist. Just as in Mount Everest there are pictures of auras.

Most of what has been posted on this subject is a collection of opinions. The only real information came from Thermo Klein regarding the entire phenomenon. If you don't like something or don't agree with a so-called label that is your right, but your belief does not make it so.

Struck a nerve? Perhaps.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio then can be dreamt of in your philosophy." William Shakespeare

reply to post by Thermo Klein


I'm not insulting you, I'm being completely serious.

If you can do all of what you listed, you are certainly NOT no one. If you have those abilities, doesn't that give you a responsibility to the rest of humanity?

If I could do all those things, I would certainly not be sitting here, I would be doing something to improve the situation.

Originally posted by rufus51
Just because someone has a strong opinion about a certain subject that does not make it so. Because you cannot see something, that does not mean that it does not exist. Have you ever seen Mount Everest? If not, how do you know it's there? Just because someone told you that it was there, or you saw pictures of what people say is Mount Everest? Denying or denigrating something because you cannot see the Indigo aura does not mean that auras do not exist. Just as in Mount Everest there are pictures of auras.

Most of what has been posted on this subject is a collection of opinions. The only real information came from Thermo Klein regarding the entire phenomenon. If you don't like something or don't agree with a so-called label that is your right, but your belief does not make it so.

Struck a nerve? Perhaps.

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio then can be dreamt of in your philosophy." William Shakespeare

Once again,what are any of these Indigo children of use to society?How is any of them going be essential in the betterment of society?Better,do any of you truly care in the above 2 questions?(that certainly leaves out that highly emphatic trait)

It has always been my observation that people who are truly special,keep quiet and do what they are supposed to without resorting to attention seeking.You people get all defensive with the skeptics yet the only thing you can show for it is by copy and pasting a list of "traits" have Indigo people possess.What does your genius level IQ show for anything?

You can have all the superpowers you want,but if you are not going to use any of them for any significant purpose other than saying you are somewhat "special"(on an internet forum) then,you clearly have wasted the very same abilities that you claim to possess.


I mean really,it all boils down to the following two words if you are an indigo ; So what



[edit on 21-4-2010 by einherjar]

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I believe the purpose of this thread is to discuss whether the Indigo phenomenon exists or not.

Originally posted by Thermo Klein
reply to post by einherjar

 

I believe the purpose of this thread is to discuss whether the Indigo phenomenon exists or not.

And the best way to sometimes observe if something exist is to study the behavior of it interacting with the environment.

If the Indigo phenomenon truly exists,groups of Indigos would have formed communities(and no I am not referring to online ones) and push for further awareness into the phenomenon.They would have done something significant,yet once again it is just squabbles over Internet forums

Originally posted by eMachine
If I could do all those things, I would certainly not be sitting here, I would be doing something to improve the situation.

You have lots of abilities, like every one of us. Too bad most of us waste our valuable time posting petty comments on internet. What's worse ATS belongs to the best part of it, the rest is facebook, porn, TV, music, video games...
We ALL have "special abilities". Yet we sit here moaning because we're some oppressed stupified sheep in dictatorial regimes unable to express our "true" intellect until the "bad people" are dealt with, all while updating our facebook profiles, playing world of warcraft and updating iPod playlist.

This doesn't have to do with you eMachine, you just inspired me to write this stuff that applies to all of us (star for you).

I couldn't agree more. It's bloody obvious that highly intelligent kids are going to be overly curious and resistant to authority. It is the natural human condition to resist authority, especially as an adolescent, but intelligent kids have the mental capacity and tools required to be more successful in their resistance of social programming.

Also, they will find it far harder to fit in with their peers, as they are different and unfortunately, in the Western World, intelligence is not a highly prized trait in childhood, compared to physical prowess.

Also a previous poster was right, in the 70's they would have been called geeks/nerds. Hell, I'm a self confessed, fully signed up, card carrying geek myself and I had a hard enough time in High School (good thing I'm such a stud now eh? ), without some idiot labelling me an Indigo Child on top of it and convincing me that I'm better than everyone else. Actually, as I recall, we had one of those in my year at school. He was right at the bottom of the food chain and was even fair game for us geeks, although to be fair to the guy, he did go on to work in a bloody good job for the MoD!

Either way, Indigo Child, no. Clever little buggers, yes.

Originally posted by SassyCat

Originally posted by eMachine
If I could do all those things, I would certainly not be sitting here, I would be doing something to improve the situation.

You have lots of abilities, like every one of us. Too bad most of us waste our valuable time posting petty comments on internet. What's worse ATS belongs to the best part of it, the rest is facebook, porn, TV, music, video games...
We ALL have "special abilities". Yet we sit here moaning because we're some oppressed stupified sheep in dictatorial regimes unable to express our "true" intellect until the "bad people" are dealt with, all while updating our facebook profiles, playing world of warcraft and updating iPod playlist.

This doesn't have to do with you eMachine, you just inspired me to write this stuff that applies to all of us (star for you).

Yeah I agree,but there is where the difference of opinions comes in.I see these special abilities as mere human traits.Nothing special but significant enough if a person choses to vest his or her sole interest into it.

Perseverance,discipline and imagination once mastered ,are far more powerful than any sort of "other worldly or esp" phenomenon.

A man sweating out on his farm for the betterment of his family deserves my praise and appreciation than somebody going on an internet forum thinking that they are "special" somewhat.

Actions speak far louder than words.




[edit on 21-4-2010 by einherjar]

[edit on 21-4-2010 by einherjar]

Hi good thread.. this has been a topic i hear nearly everywhere lately it seems! Personally, i have yet to make my mind up on Indigio children..on one side, i agree its just yet another label to give people and seperate mankind even more than it already was.. labels usually arent for any other reason imo..On the other side though, i have certainly met children, and adults that theres just something about them, their energies and beings pull at people...you can easily spot them in a crowd.. if all were really the same and equal, why would these certain beings 'shine' through others so to say? (or 'shine' brighter than most)?
My son, since birth has always been a bit... different..my sisters used to get creeped out by him when he was a baby/toddler because he was always pretty quiet, often being most content sitting and listening and watching the people and world around him, taking everything in..and was all around a chilled baby really lol.. and as hes grown we have known he is different than the kids around us just by watching his friends and his interactions with different kids.. not better, not worse.. just not the same..some of its due to different upbringings of course, but that cant be all of it.. and he can be very sensitive and is very intelligent in mathmatics.. a promising and lovely young boy that teachers and parents love to have around and at their homes, he has a certain energy and 'old soul' quality about him.. i could most likely label him one of the rainbow children, but that simply limits his mind and abilities later in life and i would imagine it could be quite detrimental to a child to be labeled with something this ..drastic, especially, later on in their life.. love them completely, guide them the best one can, and let them be ones own person and any child is overflowing with potential!!

Its difficult to make heads or tails of this. One one hand, OP denies the existence of Indigo children as being the creation/label of a single author. On the other, we have a list of distinct characteristics/traits which "Indigo Children" fall under.

I have to say that those whose natural abilities, empathies, intelligences and intuitiveness fit with the label are indeed--if you want to fit to a label--Indigo Children. Its a matter of perception, and I would throw myself in with the title were I not so utterly against crystal worshipping new age pseudo philosophical nonsense.
The whole "we are all equal" spiel is utterly false and useless. We're equal in that we are of the same spieces, but if you think yourself equal to an Usain Bolt or Albert Einstein you're fooling yourself. No one is equal to anybody else on that level, and I guess hence there should be no groups to belong to.

Indigo Children exist if you see yourself unable to exist without categorisation and feel the unerring desire to belong to a herd. I'm something else entirely.

"Indigo" movement is linked to sects and doomsday cults. And it's PROVEN. The "indigo" archetype is an easy prey for new-age movement because they are emotionaly unstable.



Demonstration :

The Indigo Children: The New Kids Have Arrived (Paperback)
by Lee Carroll, Jan Tober

Lee Carroll : www.amazon.com...=ntt_athr_dp_pel_1

kryon.com...

He has published only new-age books and books about indigo children (14 !!!). He also pretend to be channelling message from the angelic entity Kryon .

From his site : "These Indigo books introduced the world to the term "Indigo Children" in 2000..." So he's probably one of the guys who launched this fad.

Let's go see deeper who this guy really is.

Along with his "partner" Jan Tober (the second author of your book), he created various "light groups" focusing on the teachings of his channellings with Kryon.

These groups are considered as a sects in many countries : www.prevensectes.com... (sorry its in french)
with the main goal of making money through books, conferences, TV shows and groups fees, and also minimizing the gravity of events such as the Heaven's gate mass suicide. (Don't drink the koolaid man )



"Indigo children" are a new age fad, designed to make money by selling books and attending conferences.
No child counsellors are speaking about indigo children. Only new-age authors.



I'm sure those indigo people are nice, but they are NOT a kind of "new breed".

Please be careful and search harder when looking for truths.


Peace


[edit on 21-4-2010 by SpaceGoatsFarts]

Originally posted by Milleresque
On the other, we have a list of distinct characteristics/traits which "Indigo Children" fall under.

That list means nothing. It's the same list of characteristics used to define "gifted" people.

Nothing to do with new-age.

You may find the questions below interesting if you think you are an "indigo" :

"Do you have a vivid imagination?"
"Often connect seemingly unrelated ideas?"
"Are you deeply compassionate?"
"Do you have persistent curiosity?"
"Do you need periods of contemplation?"
"Do you search for meaning in your life?"
"Are you aware of things that others are not?"
"Are you highly sensitive?"
"Do you have strong moral convictions?"
"Do you often feel out-of-sync with others?"
"Are you perceptive or insightful?"
"Do you often question rules or authority?"
"Often take a stand against injustice?"
"Do you feel driven by your creativity?"
"Did you have developmentally advanced childhood?"
"Have unusual ideas or perceptions?"
"Are you a complex person?"

etc.

Feels like you ?

Where is it coming from ? Here :
www.fortunewatch.com...

Please think twice, you are unique. Not a part of a new age-army.

Peace

[edit on 21-4-2010 by SpaceGoatsFarts]

Er...if you actually read my post you would see that I understand completely that I am unique, do not ascribe to the Indigo Child schtick, and in no way consider myself similar or equal to anybody else.

You obviously like to grab whatever sliver fits a re-buff without finishing the comment in question.

Interesting thread.

For the record: I don't go around calling myself a Crystal person (or Indigo). I just recently heard about the Crystal term because I happened to be in the same room as two Indigos whose first ever words to each other where, "Um... this is gonna sound kinda weird, but are you an Indigo?" to which the other woman said, "Oh my God I was gonna say the same thing to you!"

I match many of the categories of behaviors and abilities of the Indigo list but never felt compelled to say I was, or even believe it is real. Since these two women obviously sensed it, I asked them if they thought I was. Rather hesitantly one said she didn't think I was, but the other, who can sense auras, said "you're a crystal I think."

I had never heard of it so I went and looked it up - I actually got chills all over and was really excited because the list I saw had about 15 things on it, and every single item matched me exactly.

I said at the top of page 3 that I don't have judgment about this. I've always been different and weird. I only know one other Crystal person and it's amazing, like she's a soulmate on many levels (except she's lesbian and I'm married lol). I can say it's REALLY nice to be accepted for who I am.

I can't really say much else - I hope my list helps some people. My heartfelt wish would be for people to recognize that we, all of us human beings, have ability to go beyond a Capitalist, religious life with judgment and hatred, and recognize the subtle consciousness that is around us. Breath. We here at ATS share a distrust for the media and many other things - keep that open mind concerning spirituality if you dare.


[edit on 21-4-2010 by Thermo Klein]