reply to post by jackflap
Think along these lines first Proto. It seems to me that someone would actually have to make rules as to what is right and what is wrong. Those rules
would have to be learned because like you said, some people can be inherently wrong in their thought processes.
Perhaps this is what is inherently wrong in all of our thought processes, and that is the belief that others must be wrong, because we don’t
consider them right.
Therefore to validate our own notions of right, we tend to insist on proving what we imagine to be wrong in the behavior and thinking of those whose
version of right doesn’t mirror are own.
Let’s take the War on Drugs, and Drug Laws for example.
Someone who enjoys altered mental and emotional states through artificial yet basically natural means is not ever really going to consider it wrong.
Some by the way believe chocolate is a substitute for love, so are we going to outlaw chocolate because it might enable some people to not go out and
interact and find sensations of love, by interacting with another person.
Yet those who don’t enjoy altered states or see no need for them, or are just inherently inclined to seek direction and absolution through
centralized authority are going to be easily convinced that drugs are bad, and it is wrong to use them.
But is it really wrong, just because there is a determination to make something wrong, in order to justify and quantify, and validate, what we instead
imagine to be right?
See how complicated it gets.
These would be my rules.
1. Murder no one.
2. Take nothing that is not yours without permission of who is in possession of it.
3. Never use violence as a method to solve a dispute or as a means to an end.
4. Judge no one, who has not done 1, 2, or 3!
In my humble opinion we aren’t effectively governing ourselves because we believe we can’t effectively govern ourselves.
When I mean ourselves I mean each one of us, just governing our individual self.
Because we don’t trust others to do that in a world of artificial scarcity that leads to distrust and fear, we look to rules and someone to impose
them, to regulate behavior in a way that we hope keeps us secure and safe in our person and property.
Yet it’s led to in reality the opposite, an overkill of rules, which actually makes us less secure in our person and property, because they are so
all encompassing, they almost beg to be broken.
Now believe it or not this leads to a disastrous series of unnecessary events as once someone has stepped onto that wrong side of the divide, often
not actually seeing anything wrong it, they know that others do see something wrong it, and that they might in fact impose a punishment.
The natural inclination is not to be punished, so this sets off a whole desperate series of subsequent events designed to not be caught and punished.
Now someone who really just started out smoking some marijuana, who then discovers that others think it is wrong, turns to selling marijuana to
finance security to shield their activities from others, while actually broadening their exposure, and at the same time, increasing the tally of
wrongs, now someone jealous, or righteous decides after discovery of this wrong, to inform the authorities that this person is doing something wrong,
so this person then murders that person to prevent them from informing.
So in reality, in many ways our concepts of distorted wrong, eventually cause some of who have not done anything that is really wrong, but is simply
perceived wrong by executive committee and a groups desire to dominate and control, now has in fact done something very wrong, to keep from being
My personal belief is that if we simplify the concepts of what is right and wrong, and simplify the laws to truly protect instead of regulate, that
people will use their own best judgment when it comes to the type of compulsive action that could lead to death or property loss of others.
That those few in such a simplified system who can’t handle that would in fact likely be suffering from some serious degree of insanity and then and
only then to isolate them into an environment where that propensity can’t cause loss of life or property to others, but to isolate them in a place
and in a way, where they can retain as much of how they cope, without endangering others.
We really in my humble opinion need to reevaluate our whole concepts of right and wrong, so they can’t be so exploitable and manipulated by those
simply seeking power, control and profit.
Thanks my friend.