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Originally posted by jagdflieger
reply to post by ashanu90
The question of what is evil and what is sin runs much more deeply than what most Christians and others would like to think. The problem is that we tend to look at the world through our perspective rather than God's. You might think that your life is going great, but are you a perfect person. I do not think so. I sure know that I am not perfect. The point is that even though you are doing ok, have you commited no sins. I don't think so. Well the basic Christian belief is that we all sinned. God requires a penalty for sin (no if ands of buts). The penalty for sin is internal separation from God (or Hell). The penalty for sin was applied to Jesus when He died on the cross. That atonement is available for the asking as a gift from God. All we need to do is ask. Believe what you want to believe, but basically it comes down to the question "In eternity do we want to be with God or not".
Originally posted by knowonder
HOW DARE YOU!!! how dare you knock our religion just because you dont believe!!! going on and on how it is wrong to rape little boys and commit genocide..... I dont understand this has been done since god finish this little project that took him 7 DAYS......
sorry can't do it ne more... now i think i am christian esque if that makes since.... but i just cant get down with the current rendition of the good book... there are too many discrepancies in it and mistranslations. i think that it makes a good guide book on how to be a generic okay person (aside from murder rape and pillage) but is too far removed from the orginal author's to make ne real connection with the original religion.
shoot there was a group of people PEOPLE who got to pick and choose what went into the bible. what about the other books that didn't make the cut? that didn't reinforce that particular groups dogma? just because the church at that time decided that those books were wrong meant they were wrong? the church is run by humans = flawed species.
for me there are just too many discrepancies to believe and trust in the institution that we call church. just a few are listed in my rant in the previous paragraphs.
1: You vigorously deny the existence of thousands of gods claimed by other religions, but feel outraged when someone denies the existence of YOUR god.
Originally posted by Titen-Sxull
reply to post by impaired
I have no issue with the average Christian but the zealots that fit within these 10 points really set my blood to boiling. How someone can assert, on blind faith, that their religion is absolute truth and that they KNOW their beliefs are the truth is beyond me.
Sometimes I think human beings are fundamentally insane as a species... or that perhaps religious belief is some kind of community coalescing defense mechanism built in during our development and evolution.
[edit on 31-3-2010 by Titen-Sxull]
Originally posted by SpectreDC
The problem here with these points is that just like some Christians, it asserts a dogmatic perspective that attacks anyone who does not accept them.
It's childish rhetorical questioning that while certainly brings up some valid criticism chooses to dress the criticism not from an objective point of view but from a non-religious point of view.
Originally posted by jagdflieger
reply to post by yesIAM
Did I judge? All I said is that no one is perfect and all have sinned. However now I will judge. You are indeed guilty of the WORST SIN OF ALL. That to think that you are equal to God. You are not. That is how this whole mess began in the first place. Man thought that he was equal to God and could go his own way. Also Jesus never taught to go your own way. He was always seeking the Will of the Father.
I believe God lives outside of time. Time is merely another facet of his creations.
2 PETER 3: 3-4, 8-9 “You must understand that in the last days scoffers will come, scoffing and following their own evil desires. They will say ‘Where is this coming he promised? Ever since our fathers died, everything goes on as it has since the beginning of creation’ … But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: with the Lord, a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years are like a day. The Lord is not slow keeping His promise, as some understand slowness. He is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance.”
Revelation 6:14 And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
I really like the Holographic theory. We are all part of a much bigger and more profound picture than we can comprehend. There was a very interesting thread on faith and quantum physics here a while back. www.abovetopsecret.com... Any way, I credit you for starting a great conversation. S&F for sure! I definitely don't take offense, I appreciate the opportunity to defend the faith.
Isaiah 65:17 For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind.