reply to post by impaired
Valid points and wonderful info.
Ultimately what it comes down to is this:
The heavily ingrained and indoctrinated members of any organized religion whether it be catholic, muslim or christian beliefs are so heavily
indoctrinated for a number of differing reasons related to, but not limited to personal issues, fear, tradition and upbringing or systematically
tweaked and mutilated hope among many other legitimate and widely unrecognized reasons.
Due to these reasons of indoctrination when you question their beliefs most become offended at the questioning alone, even when it is sincere or
logical analytical questioning for reasons of understanding.
Why? Because it threatens their paradigm and since that paradigm has been built up on some kind of false premise most do not have the proper backing
in support of their founded beliefs, therefore usually a barrier is established for the individual or blind denial kicks in. Most have the same
response or way to reply and retaliate against what they perceive to be a threat. But the fact alone that they are so touchy and offended on the issue
gives us (those more logical) simple and highly credible methods of viewing through the lie.
There is power in numbers and religion is sometimes very complicated but can be used for good or bad. However, after a certain point of progression in
religion, taking into consideration you really are there for the right reason to lose old false paradigms and actually overcome "yourself", you will
find that you don't need religion any more or that you have evolved past its complexities and seemingly endless inconsistencies. I too don't believe
in any kind of organized religion as I can see it's epidemic like effects on the lesser minded on our planet. It can be a useful tool for some
incapable of personal growth due to the above mentioned issues but if people were more open with themselves and truly honest with their own beliefs,
traditions, perspectives and paradigms, religion would not exist, anywhere, ever IMHO.
If religion didn't get involved in details and add information to differ from other religions it would be much more appropriate and useful. But once
you veer from basic instinctual issues you corrupt and make unnecessary laws, ideas, beliefs, principles and such and its the details that hold people
in religion and binds their reasoning powers to those details to keep them eternally indoctrinated.
Just because religion pointed out basic truths that everyone agrees on doesn't mean everything else that religion teaches is true. This is another
"capture and convert" method implemented by those who understand its effectiveness.
Essentially what people think they get out of religion comes from within their own self. The tools used in that religion just run parallel to their
own personal issues and such and allow them to delve within and surface things unrecognized and un-accounted for. Therefore giving credit to a
religious deity instead of their self, allowing them to remain neutral and not as inflated and arrogant. If balance were exercised and humility kept,
those still in religion, would evolve out of it.
I could go on forever so when the barrier goes up when questioning a set religious persons beliefs, remember that the guilty take the truth to be
Good stuff and a S&F from me.
EDIT: Friggin typos
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