Every now and then, some new "apollo 20" thread gets started.
For those unaware, it's a confirmed hoax.
It has been debunked in every part, but let me recap some facets ot it, in case you've missed them:
French artist Thierry Speth
as shown this scheme
is behind “retiredafb”, the original alias who publicized the videos: but a
long series of epic fails characterized the Apollo 20 saga.
It's an elaborate hoax, there are two different people involved in it as far as we know: one is the abovementioned french artist, the other one is
the italian journalist to whom the alleged retiredafb/rutledge/speth released his interwiews: he's a former member of italian National Ufo Center CUN
, and there's an article from one of their websites titled:
Apollo 20 footage is a hoax: we have the proof
He got BANNED for yopur information.
The idea started from the formation cthat can be seen in AS15-P-9625
(this is a crop from it)
but also in AS15-M-1720
(found by ArMaP, this one)
The reasons of the hoax are still unknown as far as i know, and honestly it doesn't matter, as far i am concerned.
All I'd like to know is how long to sing this song.
What futher proofs do we need in order to move all the apollo 20 to the trash bin?
Apollo 20 Secret Miltary Moon Mission
Debunking retiredafb - The apollo 20 hoax and the STS 107 tapes ...
Apollo 20, retiredafb, spaceship on moon seems to be hoax
Another Apollo 20 alien spaceship video
Apollo 20 update
Apollo 20 Mission Location Research
Apollo 20 confirmation of Lemurians?
Mona Lisa EBE Apollo 20
Alien Spaceship On The Moon flyover bef. landing Apollo 20
APOLLO 19 COMMANDER SPEAKS OUT: interview by Luca Scantamburlo
Abandonned Alein Spaceship on the moon (Video)
Another Fake Video?
Incredible Crashed UFO **Video**on Moon
Apollo XX Commander Pipes Up
Alien Moon City Video – Hoax or Real?
These are just the tip of the iceberg.
The Apollo 15 audio in the video known as ("The city") and claimed to be a video documenting some apollo 20 mission:
121:05:30 Allen: Presto chango; there's the TV.
['Presto Chango', sometimes spelled 'presto change-o' is a incantation usually associated with amateur magicians.]
121:05:36 Scott: Oh, beautiful, I'm glad to hear that.
Listen to the Apollo 15 audio here
See also Michael E. Salla, Ph.D update HERE:
Not enough yet?
The images of the "city" were taken from Bruce Pennington's work: you can find it on pages 24 and 25 of his book: "ESCHATUS: Future Prophecies
From Nostradamus' Ancient Writings".
Plus: floating torso issue that is strictly on topic since it refers to the OP:
But the smoking-gun evidence of hoax can be seen on the second video in this post.
As “bishop1971” commented on Youtube, at around 1:15 you can see a very bad compositing blunder in the video. “Leonov”, the astronaut in the
footage, suddenly becomes a floating torso, as you can see the background moving below his waist.
Below, a frame of the crude error, note the background below Leonov’s waist, but check for yourself on the video:
That video was actually created mixing at least three different sources: one of the “Mona Lisa” alien, a clay sculpture, the background inside the
Lunar Module, a nice computer generated video, and finally the footage of “Leonov”. But that final footage only had Leonov from the waist up, and
Speth made a very bad error on compositing — “mixing” — everything together. There’s no doubt that’s a hoax, unless you believe on flying
Italian National Ufo Center (CUN) published an article in one of its websites (the Veneto Region one) dedicated to ...yet another debunking:
titled "We got the proof that an Apollo 20 video is FAKE.
(Note: the ONLY person publicly endorsing the story was a member of CUN, now he's no longer for obvious reasons)
One of their readers, Mr. Claudio Sammartino, found out something of very interesting:
Full series here:
The story was not just debunked, but litterally annihilated.
On ATS, especially ignorant_ape and ArMaP devastated it: i'm not used to quote other members but ignorant_ape in the following post estabilished the
boundaries between REALITY ant FANTASY
Originally posted by ignorant_ape
OK - a direct challenge to everyone that believes that thier were " secret " allopo missions post A17
please posit - with what ? , where , when and how ? .
rocket launches require a VAST infrastructure
also consider the origins of your ` extra rocket ` - you cannot just magic up a launch ready Saturn V by clicking your fingers
each of the 3 rocket stages were built @ separate plants , by different contractors
the LEM was built by Grumman , the
CM by yet another contractor [ north american - again - but at a different site - with
an independant team ]
so where did the ` extra ` units come from ?
how were the extra units transported ?
2 stages needed special barges
1 a unique airplane
how ere the stages assembled into a complete rocket
the KSC used the VAB - vehicle assembly building - a unique structure with the tallest
open space of any building
how was the assembled rocket positioned on the launch pad
KSC used the crawler - another unique piece of equipment
I ask to put all the apollo 20 crap where it deserves to go: trash bin.
Thank you for your attention.