The Protocols of the Elders of Zion - Fact or Fiction?, page 8


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reply posted on 14-6-2006 @ 09:41 PM by smallpeeps
Originally posted by stoneskull
there has to be a real something to be a forgery of a something.

Good job bumping this thread. I've wanted to say more about the protocols but this seems to be a topic which attracts key debunkers on ATS. They rarely discuss the content, but rather the idea that the prot's were ripped off or "forged". As you rightly ask, stoneskull, so what if something is forged? what about the content?

I'd like to post one of my favorite parts here. I've changed "GOYIM" to "OTHERPEOPLE" so as to highlight the content of the text:


www.biblebelievers.org.au...

1. To what I reported to you at the last meeting I shall now add a detailed explanation of internal loans. Of foreign loans I shall say nothing more, because they have fed us with the national moneys of the [OTHERPEOPLE], but for our State there will be no foreigners, that is, nothing external.

2. We have taken advantage of the venality of administrators and slackness of rulers to get our moneys twice, thrice and more times over, by lending to the [OTHERPEOPLE] governments moneys which were not at all needed by the States. Could anyone do the like in regard to us? .... Therefore, I shall only deal with the details of internal loans.

3. States announce that such a loan is to be concluded and open subscriptions for their own bills of exchange, that is, for their interest-bearing paper. That they may be within the reach of all the price is determined at from a hundred to a thousand; and a discount is made for the earliest subscribers. Next day by artificial means the price of them goes up, the alleged reason being that everyone is rushing to buy them. In a few days the treasury safes are, as they say, overflowing and there's more money than they can do with (why then take it?) The subscription, it is alleged, covers many times over the issue total of the loan; in this lies the whole stage effect - look you, they say, what confidence is shown in the government's bills of exchange.

4. But when the comedy is played out there emerges the fact that a debit and an exceedingly burdensome debit has been created. For the payment of interest it becomes necessary to have recourse to new loans, which do not swallow up but only add to the capital debt. And when this credit is exhausted it becomes necessary by new taxes to cover, not the loan, BUT ONLY THE INTEREST ON IT. These taxes are a debit employed to cover a debit .... (Hence THE CRY TO BALANCE THE BUDGET!)

5. Later comes the time for conversions, but they diminish the payment of interest without covering the debt, and besides they cannot be made without the consent of the lenders; on announcing a conversion a proposal is made to return the money to those who are not willing to convert their paper. If everybody expressed his unwillingness and demanded his money back, the government would be hoist on their own petard and would be found insolvent and unable to pay the proposed sums. By good luck the subjects of the [OTHERPEOPLE] governments, knowing nothing about financial affairs, have always preferred losses on exchange and diminution of interest to the risk of new investments of their moneys, and have thereby many a time enabled these governments to throw off their shoulders a debit of several millions.

6. Nowadays, with external loans, these tricks cannot be played by the [OTHERPEOPLE] for they know that we shall demand all our moneys back.

This section seems to be a pretty fair description of the US fiscal policy. Where exactly was it "forged" from?

Why is it that Americans in this Zionized country are not taught the meaning of the word usury? Why is there no real financial education in school? Why are college students seen as food for predatory lenders?

How large is the national debt again? Where are we getting 80 billion dollars for the war against Israel's enemies? Hmm...


[edit on 14-6-2006 by smallpeeps]


reply posted on 20-6-2006 @ 05:27 AM by Dae
Originally posted by smallpeeps
This section seems to be a pretty fair description of the US fiscal policy. Where exactly was it "forged" from?

How large is the national debt again? Where are we getting 80 billion dollars for the war against Israel's enemies? Hmm...


Yes yes yes! Do be honest I say, sod all that malarky on who is doing what. Lets just fix the problems! If Im not mistaken Protocols talk about people being naive and unaware and abusing our 'good faith' (no-one wants to believe they are deliberately being 'got at'). So education and change must be the way, we give up our power by putting up with this insane rip-off called our Economy.

Why is it that Americans in this Zionized country are not taught the meaning of the word usury? Why is there no real financial education in school? Why are college students seen as food for predatory lenders?


Lets get global here though (as they are) and take a snap shot of a monumental event.
Source
As much as one third of English war expenditure would be raised by public loans, and when in 1694 King William asked the London gold-merchants for a loan of £1,200,000 to continue prosecuting war with France, they used a new body called the Bank of England to raise it. When this first loan was used up in war-fighting, the Bank made further loans to the Crown.

In 1695 the Bank of Scotland was founded and immediately became involved in a fierce struggle for island-wide control and regulation of capital and credit disbursement and use.

The financial and political muscle of the largest trading corporation of the time, the East India Company, was heavily involved in this struggle, whose outcome created the conditions in which the Union of the two Parliaments was negotiated in 1707 and post-Union Scotland financed during the first two decades of the new British state. The Bank of England also played a leading part in these transactions.


Now, if we can imagine the military corporations manipulating events to go to war to make profit then we can also assume the banks have done the same. In fact, the Bank of England has funded the last 300 years of warfare!

Mortgage. If Im not mistaken it is made up from Latin, Mort = death, gage = gamble - nice eh?



reply posted on 26-6-2006 @ 01:54 PM by stoneskull
video discussion of the protocols:

opposingdigits.com...

after digesting that.

let me tell you..

you may know roth schield wasn't a real name.

it comes from the red shield.. the house of the red shield

well, Stein means Stone

as in Larry Flint Stone

i mean Silver Stone

Larry's SilverStone's Spokeman, Steve SOLomon of the Solomon Brothers

Westfield America and Anglo America

The Sun has the Whole World in His Hands

article: www.freemasonrywatch.org...



edit: seraphim mention the "The Moslem Extremists"

interesting that Jon Rothschild translated that book from le French.




[edit on 26/6/06 by stoneskull]
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