What if unemployment benefits do stop?

End the wars...save $10+ billion per month of OUR tax $$.

Reverse the outsourcing and recall US companies to the US who've left to save a buck @ the expense of american workers.

Force the banks to repay $$ stolen from americans via "The wallstreet bailout". They created the problem, how do you give a credit challenged person making $25k annually, a mortgage for a $150k house?? I've personally seen it happen...

The military industrial complex needs to be reigned in. Loosing $2.3billion is not supposed to happen. Among OTHER things...

Forget it....I'm running for office(local) dammit. I need to see what's floating around these shark ponds.

It all rest on mindset. We are conditioned from birth to buy goods we do not need. For that end we are told that the goal
is to work hard and earn large paychecks. What goes unsaid is that for every dollar you
earn the company you work for gets 4 to 7 dollars or more.
It boils down to greed, and at all levels. "Keeping up with the Jones'es was introduced to make it seem
acceptable to be greedy, because it made the owners of the companies more money.
The only way this country is going to survive in my opinion is to do away with the stock
market and futures trading, both of which are controlled by the very rich so that they can get richer.
Do away with the stock market?? Are you nuts?? The companies and the economy need the capital to operate on.
No they do not. But it has been set up that way by the bankers, who either work for or are members
of the very rich.
Let's look at this, if a company does not have investors but rather makes its own way. Then
it does not have to pay dividends. That money can then be put back into the company for expansion
or higher wages or both. The only ones that lose out are the bankers and the very rich.
And of course the various leeches that get a cut at every turn.
The constant demand for dividends is what ultimately drives up costs and fuels inflation.

reply to post by ahmonrarh

End the wars...save $10+ billion per month of OUR tax $$.

More and more ideas. So what. Anyone can sit and think or dream,
Fantasize. We don't need thoughts, we need action. Now. As in up off the ass
pushin paper.

abmonrah

Forget it....I'm running for office(local) dammit. I need to see what's floating around these shark ponds.

Seriously, somebody new who dosn't know a damn thing about washington
I would easily vote for over anyone else.

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reply to post by ahmonrarh


May Heaven help you. Running for any office now is not a good thing I believe. Unless you have the cajones to do what must be done for the people and the country. Which may put you on Obama's hit list.

Well two years ago I made a huge mistake. Not liking my job and inheriting some money I decided to better myself and go to school. I went to school for air conditioning ,refrigeration and heating repair and installing. I graduated a year ago with high expectations of owning my own business, I live in the state of Florida and I thought it would be a great move to better my and my families lives. The state of Florida is making it so difficult for me to do anything. It is almost like they do not want you to have a business unless you are rich to begin with. I have all the tools a reliable vehicle and all the certifications I need. I think one way to help create jobs is to maybe make it a bit easier to start your own business. If i could get licensed I would hire people and I am sure many people are in the same boat. The rich get richer and we the people continue to get stepped on. I have looked everywhere for jobs also and it is not happening if your not in the medical field or an exotic dancer. I hope things work out soon.

reply to post by Subjective Truth


Reason is the globalist controlling our gov for years now want to get rid of industry in the USA which they about 80% succeeded already, they use the fake environmental movement to tax and control to stop any new power plants, industry from starting up in the USA. That's why the big push for this carbon tax, even though it has been proven to be a fraud they keep pushing it.

It isn't they can't bring jobs to the US it is they don't want too, they want to bankrupt the middle class and make us a socialist dictatorship run by a global government (bank).

reply to post by brainwrek


You people REALLY need to educate yourselves and READ THE DAMN link. I am so sick of the rhetoric here, does anyone really understand WHAT the corporate government DID? HJR192 removal of gold from the possession of the people and they were given IOU's in return, read Federal Reserve Notes, they are IOU's.

I am not going to sit here and explain to you MORONS how the system works and how it was set-up. Do your own research and education, stop making dumbass comments when you have no idea what is going on or what has gone on.

Pre-Paid
Pre-paid is very simple. The entire economy is pre-paid. Look at it this way: We have a car sitting on a dealer’s lot. You walk up to buy the car. Does the dealer ever tell you "I am glad you are going to buy this car because we have to find out how we are going to pay for this car to be built." No is the answer you would get, but that is exactly what they are doing when you go to the bank to get a loan. When do they ever build something and then talk about how they are going to finance it to be built. The product was paid for when the contract was put in place to collect the industrial recourses through the Army Corp of Engineers, EPA, DOT, and OSHA in Flint, Michigan to build it. Even more precisely, the item was paid for when the census did a per-capita poll to identify how much money those agencies should put into the economy based on our productivity, (unfortunately take a quick look at Marxism and Keynesian Economics to make a connection with your worth and your previous status). Now everybody with a head (per capita) raise your hand. Good they loaned against you to finance the operation, that is the "Principal Account." Making the item pre-paid for the acceptor. This is another reason why you are the principal. The principal reason you are Pre-Paid is because Christ's acceptance of the sins in the Garden of Gethsemane and His death on the cross, created the Pre-Payment of all your liabilities both temporal and spiritual because they are inseparable because I wasn't here two thousand years ago but My sins were pre-paid on the condition that I accept the Redeemer. You are the source of economic production being the principal and your interest accruing from you i.e. a per-capita census statistics was pledged as the collateral to be the sponsor of the monetary systems' credit. That is why when interest that accrues from the principal gets returned (tax returned) to the principal, there is a decrease in tax liability (a deduction). The vendor is paying his taxes to you. That is why it is a tax matter. Tax is just a return of the interest to the principal.

loveforlife.com.au...

Download and READ IT. Stop making stupid remarks or acting as a disinfo idiot.

reply to post by ironjello


Iron jello. Great screen name. I love it. Almost! as if they only want the rich
to own business. My friend that's exactly what it is and you know it
better than I do. No time to pussy foot. Call'em like you see 'em.

Sent my form out last night. I don't know if it will show Saturday or not.
If it dosn't I may as well break out the war paint while I'm still strong.







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Originally posted by crusaderiam
reply to post by Subjective Truth

 

Reason is the globalist controlling our gov for years now want to get rid of industry in the USA which they about 80% succeeded already, they use the fake environmental movement to tax and control to stop any new power plants, industry from starting up in the USA. That's why the big push for this carbon tax, even though it has been proven to be a fraud they keep pushing it.

It isn't they can't bring jobs to the US it is they don't want too, they want to bankrupt the middle class and make us a socialist dictatorship run by a global government (bank).

You might be right I can not wrap my head around why they are not building roads and bridges and the things you need to actually get this up and running again? It is like they have a plan or something. And that plan is not about us succeeding.

reply to post by Subjective Truth


Yeah...they are just holding off so the Frickin GOP can get the Freaking CORPORATE TAX CUTS.

GEEZUS.

F the American people...gotta get those corporations some more tax cuts to create jobs!!!

reply to post by Subjective Truth


Isn't simply because the Government is broke? FDR used the Keynsian model but there was suifficient money to borrow without going to the chinese. I believe that there is an great deal of fear regarding China.

They are going to drop the unemployment benefits because they see people with no other solution enlisting in the Army to fight their war for OIL. Poor people are just another resource to be squandered by the elite. If people want to stop this charade, we have to get rid of every Democrat and Republican who is in government. Especially those who have been slopping out of the public trough for decades. That is the problem. They view themselves as ABOVE us. They do not serve us as it is intended in the Constitution, but rather they think that it is us who should serve them and their interests.

EVERYONE SHOULD REFUSE TO PAY TAXES THIS YEAR. TAXES DO NOT RUN THE GOVERNMENT, THEY ONLY GO TO THE FED (AN ILLEGAL PRIVATE COMPANY) TO PAY THE INTEREST ON THE MONEY THE FED PRINTS AND LOANS TO THE GOVERNMENT. If the government printed its own money as intended by the Constitution, then there would be no need for income taxes. The Fed needs to be dissolved. GET PRIVATE BANKERS OUT OF OUR GOVERNMENT.

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Originally posted by randyvs

Seriously, somebody new who dosn't know a damn thing about washington
I would easily vote for over anyone else.

[edit on 1-3-2010 by randyvs]

That is exactly what we need. We need to wipe the slate clean. Get every sitting politician out of office and start new. WE DO NOT NEED TO PERPETUATE THE STATUS QUO. Washington works the way it does because the elite control it. Scrap it. Get out the Constitution, read it, and start over. WE THE PEOPLE are not being represented. Congressmen do not need endless committees to decide issues. THEY NEED TO POLL THEIR CONSTITUENCY INSTEAD. They were not elected to do what they as a group decide. THEY WERE ELECTED TO DO THE WILL OF THEIR CONSTITUENCY, THAT MEANS THE PEOPLE WHO RESIDE IN THEIR CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICTS. Washington is being run all wrong. New blood is needed across the board.

reply to post by daddio


Separation of church and state. Christ has nothing to do with our monetary system. Remember he threw the money changers out of the temple.

reply to post by Subjective Truth


If the government does end unemployment you will see crime rates go up drastically especially in area's that have been hit hard by companies going out of business. The last thing the government needs to do is piss off the public any more, they are walking a very thin line as it is and something major like ending unemployment benefits, I think could start a revolution.

Originally posted by groingrinder
They are going to drop the unemployment benefits because they see people with no other solution enlisting in the Army to fight their war for OIL. Poor people are just another resource to be squandered by the elite. If people want to stop this charade, we have to get rid of every Democrat and Republican who is in government. Especially those who have been slopping out of the public trough for decades. That is the problem. They view themselves as ABOVE us. They do not serve us as it is intended in the Constitution, but rather they think that it is us who should serve them and their interests.

EVERYONE SHOULD REFUSE TO PAY TAXES THIS YEAR. TAXES DO NOT RUN THE GOVERNMENT, THEY ONLY GO TO THE FED (AN ILLEGAL PRIVATE COMPANY) TO PAY THE INTEREST ON THE MONEY THE FED PRINTS AND LOANS TO THE GOVERNMENT. If the government printed its own money as intended by the Constitution, then there would be no need for income taxes. The Fed needs to be dissolved. GET PRIVATE BANKERS OUT OF OUR GOVERNMENT.

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how?

Originally posted by Xcouncil=wisdom
reply to post by loveguy

 

Thank you for you personal interest in my beliefs.
I did not suggest that social security should be dependant upon proving no illicit drug use, only that benefits for those that could be productive members of society who choose to mooch off the system: The ones that begrudgingly make sure they do as little as possible to look for jobs that don't U/A...or those that won't take low paying jobs because it will negate their elligability for food stamps.
I am totally for supporting those that need it...not those that ONLY want it...I see that as two different things entirely. And I completely support those that have earned it, such as retirees and the dissabled. That is not who I was refering to in my comment.

edit to replace mention with suggest...fyi


[edit on 28-2-2010 by Xcouncil=wisdom]

Thanks. Seeing eye to eye is cool.
star for you.

reply to post by ironjello

It is a sad state of affairs but to get ahead you first have to kiss up(work) for a company that already has a license. Then after a while you will be able to get your own. Gettint to know the city officals that grant the licenses couldn't hurt either. It sucks but that's the way it is.

I would like to see the stimulus that doing away with minimum wage and unemployment benefits would have. No workee/no eatee

Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
Part of the problem is that despite all indications to the contrary, many economic advisors still believe that trickle down economics works.

Give money to the rich, and the poor will benefit.

Except for the simple fact that it doesnt.

www.reuters.com...

Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said on Tuesday the U.S. economic recovery was "extremely unbalanced," driven largely by high earners benefiting from recovering stock markets and and large corporations.

Small businesses and the jobless are still suffering from the aftermath of a credit crunch that was "by far the greatest financial crisis, globally, ever" -- including the 1930s Great Depression, said Greenspan in an address to a Credit Union National Association conference.

Economies trickle up. They always have, and they always will. If you want an economy to do better, you make sure the bottom is strong. Our economies are pyramid shaped. You strengthen the base, the top is secure. You weaken the base and add too much to the top, and they crumble.

An utter and complete misunderstanding of this concept is why we are recovering so poorly.

Edit to correct egregious spelling errors.

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Do you seriously believe this?

1. National economies are like massive freight trains. Momentum(of any nature or direction) will not be instantly or easily changed. So citing only the "rich" recovering holds no weight. Have some patience(see "Reagan Era"). Give it time, Sparky.

2. How many paychecks have you received that were signed by a poor man?

3. Why do you(and a few other Idealists) hate successful people?

4. Trickle-Down Economics do work. I could provide 100+ links to articles that support it, but it won't mean anything to someone who believes otherwise. You'll just counter with 100+ articles that refute it, right?

5. You are picturing the "pyramid" in way that makes no sense whatsoever. The monetary "base" is the business world which employs the majority of us. If you rape business of profits and redistribute it amongst the poor, you're building a system that will eventually fall flat on it's face and cannot possibly support itself.
While I'm sure this (trickle-up)sounds like a great solution as you're passing the bong to your frat brothers, the fact is it's mathematically impossible to sustain.