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Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
reply to post by gwydionblack
I've always thought you were out of your mind, but if this man did this willfully, he is a suicide bomber. Innocent people may still be dead in that building. You live in a democratic country and you are advocating terrorism over voting?
You can vote, you can change your system peacefully and without fear. Do you have any idea how wonderful and amazing that freedom is? You can have a revolution again and again without violence simply by voting.
Instead you are saying you are happy about a violent and disgusting terrorist attack! That is not even the easy way out it is just disgusting and evil. Get help.
Originally posted by Asktheanimals
reply to post by ProjectJimmy
I agree that violence that may claim innocent lives should NOT be condoned. However, if you think that voting will change anything in the US except who gets face time on tv you are sorely mistaken my friend. They offer us 2 flavors of the same you-know-what and call it choice when both parties carry out different ends of the same agenda. I suppose the English equivalent would be to put a Duke and an Earl on the ticket as choices. Either way you still elect royalty.
When the elections don't go the way they want they STEAL them. Research what happened in the 2000 and 04 presidential elections. There is a literal MOUNTAIN of evidence saying that votes were stolen, changed, thwarted, whatever. Greg Palast's book, best Democracy money can buy lays it out pretty well.
To get any real change in the US we need a viable third party that hasn;'t been bought out by every bank and corporation on the block.
Local elections are pretty much on the up and up (except Chicago and a few other major cities) and yes, we can initiate change on the local level but that's small potatoes compared to trillion dollar bailouts and wars that go on forever. That is why the American people do not get what they want but the corporations do. It is rule by proxy and yes, we need a revolution to end it. No amount of voting or protesting will ever change it.
Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
reply to post by mike_trivisonno
Then vote the bums out! Do what your founding fathers gave you the power to do. Mobilize the people! If the people do not want your alternative, well that does not in any way shape or form give you any right to commit violent acts against your fellow citizen because you disagree with them.
If you are in the minority, and cannot convince people to change their minds, you can't just kill them!
Originally posted by lephermessiah
I think it may be a false flag, one that our government could use to target anti-tax protesters.
Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
You cannot vote the IRS out of office. No one will get elected on the crazy, loony platform of IRS abolitionism but every single one promises "tax reform".
The IRS has it's own enforcement arm and its own court system. It is an out of control entity that can imprison you or kill you for your supposed "debt" to the federal government.
Originally posted by ProjectJimmy
reply to post by Violater1
That is the great difference between you "patriots" and your founding fathers. The people that created the United States of America had no other choice but war with Great Britain. You that advocate violence are not anywhere near their moral equal. They were great men of vision and courage, and they did not go rushing to take lives.
Originally posted by Violater1
reply to post by ProjectJimmy
Project Jimmy
I humbly apologize, you stated that gwydionblack, from page one, was “out of his mind,” Not a wack job.
He only gave his opinion.
However, and I quote you,” That is the great difference between you "patriots" and your founding fathers. The people that created the United States of America had no other choice but war with Great Britain. You that advocate violence are not anywhere near their moral equal.”
I have never said that I advocate violence.
I do agree with you, what happened today was terrible.