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Originally posted by puppetmaster
It's not wrong to play the world police, but in my opionion most USA people lack the knowledge of foreign countries. With that i mean knowledge about history, culture etc etc.
I live in Europe and the way I see it is that the USA government doesn't have respect for other countries their policies, laws and beliefs.
Right now and in the twentieth centurry, the USA only becomes involved if it's in their own benefit. Morally that will never become accepted, so groups of people who notices that the USA has a "second" agenda will turn against the USA.
Originally posted by Muaddib
Prey tell me, so you do prefer the US to be more like the French government and Germany both whom abet genocide in the not so distant past...and be more like France in accepting radical Islam more and more, making every girl, even if she is not Muslim, in Muslim predominant cities wear a full burqa because if she doesn't she would be gang raped as she will be considered a whore...
I was raised in Europe, and the problem with Europe is that it has become too open to socialist/communist ideals which bash the coalition, and mostly the US government for responding to such attacks with force.
Son, when the belief of some people takes the lives of innocent civilians, as in 9/11 and 3/11, who do not share the same belief as the extremists who committed such violent acts., it is the right of the government of the people attacked to find those responsible and root them out, more so if the policy of said extremists involves the destruction of the country if they don't accept the subjugation to Islam.
If you want to end this, tell all your friends in Europe that agree with you to go in one big group to hug the Islamic extremists and see if they agree to some sort of truce. When, and if, your buddies and yourself, come back with all your heads still attached, and every Islamic extremist, including priests, have accepted not to conduct any other kind of terrorist act, ever, I am sure the coalition and the government of the US will not be so involved in foreign countries.
So, go ahead, go get your buddies and see if you can make a truce with every terrorist group, hug them for me too. BTW, i do hope you at least go there armed....
Originally posted by IKnowNothing
the U.S. would never join the EU, the reason for it, the US is way too proud.
Originally posted by Freedom Fighter
No, the US should never join a federation such as the EU. Hell I want the United States to withdraw from the UN. Let someone else play the role of world police. I'm tired of being ridiculed for trying to help other people. Go back to isolationism and worry about our own problems. Let France be the watchdog, those surrender monkeys.
Originally posted by Freedom Fighter
Well mr steve, if we did not get involved in Kosovo, genocide would have killed many of those people. So you think we were wrong for getting involved? Same for Iraq, and if we did not do it who would?
Originally posted by Muaddib
Really? i don't recall there being an economic gain for the US when we stopped what could have been bloodshed in Haiti this year....
Originally posted by Freedom Fighter
Great find Muad!Weren't we trying to help somalians who were being starved to death by their own militia?
Originally posted by spacedoubt
We'll stay out of the EU.
Don't think we'd lower ourselves.
We like our Independence (remember that war?)
However,
Have an Earthquake?, Flood? Fires? Famine?
The US is there with food, doctors, water, blankets, you name it.
Originally posted by Freedom Fighter
If we were to stop getting involved in other countries affairs altogether, what do you think the world would be like? Do we not have the right to fight terrorism, even if it means invading a country and ousting its ruler?
I'd like to hear your non-biased opinions if that can actually be done.
Originally posted by spacedoubt
mrsteve,
To crystalize it even further, if it's non-biased, it's not an opinion at all!
the US did not become the worlds anti terrorist police until it suited them (i.e. 9/11).
Mr. Steve, you mean after our planes were hijacked, Passenger throats were slit, 2 HUGE buildings destroyed, 1 damaged. 3000 citizens from many countries were burned, or crushed to death, Did we decide to do something about it? And people beat us up for getting in everyones business! Sounds like there is restraint as well?
Originally posted by Muaddib
...I was raised in Europe, and the problem with Europe is that it has become too open to socialist/communist ideals which bash the coalition, and mostly the US government for responding to such attacks with force...
Originally posted by mrsteve
Erm, governments change, maybe the Americans are oblivious to whats happened in the world, but ACTUALLY the Nazis are no longer in power! Its like saying no one should be like the US Government because they condoned slavery a hundred years ago.
The Americans did not police the 'Rwanda crisis'. Does that make them condone genocide?
[Edited on 30-5-2004 by mrsteve]
Originally posted by puppetmaster
Everybody is so ignorant..........
And France isn't accepting radical Islam.........
France recently tried to ban radical Imams, whichs seem to become a huge problem in all European countries.
Your beloved country has 1 of 75 males in prison. And the war on drugs allows the CIA to become a profitable and independent corporation.
But yes pointing fingers to Germany and France governments and their mass genocide... So easy..
I am not your Son, I am not your child.. don't use your ego to think you know better than me.
Originally posted by Thomas Crowne
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Too proud? Pride has little to do with it, as the members of the E.U. see the U.S. as competition.
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