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posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 09:07 AM
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Old school one this. Numbers Stations are Short Wave Radio communications , most coming from or near Military bases. Its how the military communicate with agents in the field. One near me called "The Lincolnshire Poacher"

Basically shortwave radio is one of those things, that if all out modern day tech collapsed, then the easiest thing for us to start producing and running on fairly low power would be short wave radio. Started I think before WWII. If the poo hit the fan and you were an agent in the field. You could probably make or find an old radio that can pick this stuff up. Was current technology bakc in the day, but now its used as more of a back up.

Basically, you will communicate some random earie crap, then interject every so often with a statment followed by numbers.

A field agent will have a small book called a codex. In this book there are hundreds of codes, over the pages. So the statement says "Bloody Mary" or something which means turn to page "Bloody Mary". Then the numbers come 10, 1, 2, 4, 5, 1, 6, ,7 , and so on. Each number relates to a letter in the alphabet and hey presto you can communicate secretlt with field agents.

Back in the Cold war Russian and Western agents did everything they possibly could to try and steal each other codex's. Without the codex its impossible to crack a code.

Its a very very secure way of getting messages out to agents. As far as im aware, impossible to crack.

Agents used to find all sorts of ways of making the codex as well. I have seen tiny tiny books about the size of a stamp. You need a magnifying glass to read them. But, they could be hidden anywhere. Soles in shoes. Watches, cigarette packs, drinks. So pretty good system really.




posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 09:22 AM
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Oh sorry one last thing. I think I read somewhere that Long Wave radio is easy to see and trace who is listening to it....I bit like the TV Van that drives around Student Halls of Residence in the UK to find out who is watching TV and and has not paid their license.

Short wave I understand is nearly impossible to trace. So if you are an agent in the field, then obviously only you ....or a few people who like listening to this stuff as a hobby...will be listening to it making it easy for a government to trace where you are....unless you have shortwave radio.

Also, many arabic countries, or places like china and russia use shortwave more frequently to broadcast over a wider geographical area. Not sure why, probably something to do with it being cheaper than setting up FM transmitters every 100 miles. So it just so happens that you would have east access to shortwave if you were spying overseas.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 09:32 AM
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great find!
i just went and downloaded them and i'm loving it. they're so strange and they have such a sense of mystery to them. they really let the imagination run wild.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 10:10 AM
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Maybe this has been pointed out but I did the math on the signal based on order of transmissions...

first signal in 1997, next signal in 2002 = 5 years apart
Second signal 2002, next was in 2006 = 4 years apart
Third signal in 2006, next was in 2009 = 3 years apart
fourth signal in 2009, I'm guessing next signal in 2011 = 2 years
Final signal in 2012???

Just saying, dont burn me on this! lol



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 10:16 AM
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I was tempted to post a thread about this too. I read about UVB-76 just recently on cracked.com, as well as the backwards radio station. I am going to assume that since all of us wanted to post about this, it must have been from some common recent experience, likely viewing this cracked article.

www.cracked.com...



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 10:45 AM
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That's what I was thinking man. Where did you learn this, is there a real source for it or is it all word of mouth?

Not patronizing you, I do not doubt this at all, I just want some reading material.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:02 AM
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i find the WOW signal to be a much more interesting mysterious signal, or the backwards music station.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:07 AM
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www.cracked.com...

here is the link to all of the radio broadcasts that are in the thread. the WOW signal is the most interesting. Cracked is a great website, where people actually do their OWN research to put an article together. what a novel idea



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by kennedy13
reply to post by Pauligirl
 


Maybe this has been pointed out but I did the math on the signal based on order of transmissions...

first signal in 1997, next signal in 2002 = 5 years apart
Second signal 2002, next was in 2006 = 4 years apart
Third signal in 2006, next was in 2009 = 3 years apart
fourth signal in 2009, I'm guessing next signal in 2011 = 2 years
Final signal in 2012???

Just saying, dont burn me on this! lol


That's kind of what I was looking at too - sort of a countdown. But when you consider the month and year, it is more like this:

First signal December 1997, next signal September 2002 = 4 years 9 months apart.
Second signal September 2002, next signal February 2006 = 3 years 5 months apart.
Third signal February 2006, next signal September 2009 = 3 years 7 months apart.

So the amount of time between the third and fourth signal actually increased a little...



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:34 AM
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Oh cool I didn't know the cracked article was strictly about numbers stations!
I guess CBS and porn on a kids show are numbers stations, wow I didn't know that.

Possibly I didn't post the cracked article because I didn't want the topic to get sidetracked by bare-assed lunatics who hijack tv stations.

Alot of what's in this thread did not come from that article, in fact most of it didn't. Read the thread.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Mr Headshot
reply to post by anubis1_1
 


Oh cool I didn't know the cracked article was strictly about numbers stations!
I guess CBS and porn on a kids show are numbers stations, wow I didn't know that.

Possibly I didn't post the cracked article because I didn't want the topic to get sidetracked by bare-assed lunatics who hijack tv stations.

Alot of what's in this thread did not come from that article, in fact most of it didn't. Read the thread.




looks like i hit a soft spot. i'm not going to derail your thread i was just trying to give credit where credit is due. have a great discussion about somebody else's research!!!!!!



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 11:51 AM
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for some reason this made me think of that movie The Unwanted with Angelina Jolie, u kno, where the sewing machine will randomly pick out names for the assassins to kill....hmmm.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 12:03 PM
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Very...Very Eerie!

Creeped me out a bit the fact that is' unknown and broadcasting for a while is scary... according to Wiki it staes that the russian was translated into numbers and names simialr to the NATO phonetic alphabet..

Could they be codes for sleeper cells? or something along those lines.
I'd like to know more about this.

The fact that it's a permanent one is interesting meaning that someone is funding it and manning the source.

or we could all be wrong and it's some nut job survivalist hiding in the mountains.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 12:10 PM
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Pretty interesting. Your post made me do a few searches in the legality of broadcasting via short wave & more important, HOW to broadcast via short wave.

Curiously enough, I can find that information on Google.

Anyone knows the answers to my questions?



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 12:17 PM
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This is from a recent posting from the band STS9 (Sound Tribe Sector 9) about this same radio broadcast... There entire new album is based on this discovery simply amazing

"A family member of ours has a shortwave radio that we have all been messing around with. We had been using it for sound effects and noises when one day it was left it on in the studio. Keyboardist David Phipps’ daughter Aya was playing around with the dials when all of a sudden it stopped on this voice on the super low frequencies of the spectrum. It was a woman's voice, artificial we later found out, counting off numbers in a very clear and concise way. We became obsessed with what we had heard and for weeks we sat behind the dials trying to find more voices.

There was only one more to be found, the voice we sampled for the beginning of the song “Central”. After a bit of research, we found that these were numbers stations, thought to be coded messages various governments use to send correspondence to spy's overseas. This of course isn’t publicly acknowledged by any government, even though in 2001 the United States tried the Cuban Five for spying using information they supposedly received and decoded by broadcast from a Cuban numbers station.

STS9 has always been fascinated by numbers; finding this transmission captured our imagination so much that we had to see if there was something more to what we had found. Immediately we enlisted the skills of a crypto-hacker friend of ours to see if she could find any relevance to the sequence we had recorded. When she ran the numbers as coordinates corresponding to a map of military bases in California, she came up with an exact location in Big Sur. We immediately went to check it out and sure enough there was a trail about 10 miles back off of Nacimiento Rd. just south of the park that led to this old abandoned bunker type structure. It was crazy. We were all looking at each other in disbelief but there we were. We crawled through a hole at the bottom of the fence and walked inside. There we found a rusted metal box that had a few pictures, documents, patches, passports, and a knife in it. The first picture was of a document from Allen Dulles to J. Edgar Hoover on brainwashing. The second was of two men standing over a map of the Middle East. That image became the cover of our first single “Atlas” off the upcoming release ‘Ad Explorata’. One of the patches we found was the most intriguing of our finds. It had this physically impossible symbol on it that looked futuristic next to all of the older documents. It’s the symbol we lay over top of every image you will see for the album. In doing some research, we later found an old book of 'black ops' military patches at the Prelinger Library that had a brief description of this patch. It was thought to be for a secret unit that first used satellites to gather SIGINT (signal intelligence) from other countries during the Cold War. The story is that this team actually gathered signals from another civilization in our galaxy. Their motto was 'Ad Explorata, Forward into the Unexplored'.

We’re not ones for conspiracies but sometimes the truth is stranger than anything we could imagine."

Pictures of the logo and document as well as some good music can be found here sts9.com...

[edit on 18-1-2010 by sustain]



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 12:18 PM
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What if some far off Arctic base (well stocked with rations) was forgotton and some "really" old communication soldier is still up there broadcasting signals because he doesn't know the war is over. It only broadcasts out, so he has no clue and he is just following orders.

That would make for a good story, lol



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 12:33 PM
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The Wow! Signal


What is it?

This broadcast rivals or even surpasses the Backward Music Station in mysteriousness. It is so mysterious, in fact, they were forced to go with this ridiculous name.


Wow! Numbers!

This was a radio signal that was picked up at The Big Ear radio telescope. Yes, this one comes from space. Big Ear used numbers, from zero to 10, to document how far above the useless background noise any signals went. In a comically childish system, the eggheads ran out of fingers and had to use toes, adding letters A-Z on top of the numbers. The Wow! Signal was "6EQUJ5," meaning it began at a scale of six, crept past the letter threshold, jumped to Q and then as far as U before fading gradually.

All of this happened over 37 seconds, and all of this from a seemingly empty point in space. Perhaps even more mind-boggling, it came from a non-terrestrial and non-solar system source. It was a signal shot to Earth from one of the emptiest places imaginable, and something from that place somehow got to us.


Return address.

It's called the "Wow!" signal because the man who found it was so amazed by it that he circled it and wrote "Wow!" on the side

So What's the Deal?

It could be, as the killjoys at Wikipedia suggest, interstellar scintillation of a weaker continuous signal. If that statement did little more than sexually excite you, then all you need to know is that a continuous signal is far less remarkable, and what they picked up might have been a weak, continuous signal that gained strength for a short time. However, it's a mysterious signal from space that follows a very calculated system, turning off, and turning on. That... really shouldn't be.

The signal had the trademark of an artificially produced interstellar broadcast. How did they broadcast it from a point in space where there are no planets and there are no solar systems? Well, the only explanation would be a spaceship, and the signal is used to communicate to other spaceships.



The guy who found the signal in the first place tried to deny it was extraterrestrial life; that it was something from Earth reflected off of space debris, but there are problems with that theory.

If it was from Earth, the reflector would have to have been in all sorts of unrealistic requirements for the nature of the signal. For once the explanation that there's an alien craft beaming signals is more logically sound than the tried and true "space debris" argument.


ALL FROM CRACKED.COM

[edit on 18-1-2010 by alien]



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 12:36 PM
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Here is their music. Pretty cool! digital.1320records.com...



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 12:50 PM
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Thanks to everyone who provided information on this thread. Hopefully more information will become available, and be presented here, as well.

S n F, OP.



posted on Jan, 18 2010 @ 01:25 PM
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Let me see:

1. Russian
2. Random Numbers

Humm... lost experience anyone?






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