The psychology behind "Doomsdayers", page 1
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Topic started on 17-1-2010 @ 11:40 AM by Jedi411
The psychology behind "doomsdayers" is very intriguing.

When these individuals speak of "the end of times" they ultimately create a window of insight into themselves.

I break these people down into a few different groups listed in no particular order.

- Unhappy / Want the world to end.
- Egotistical / The world will end when I parish.
- Paranoid & Anxiety Prone / Succumb to the theories out of inner fears.
- Science Ignorant / Know no better than to believe what they hear, watch, and read.
- Gullible / Going to believe it regardless.

The question remains why so many people immediately join the ranks of this list. Nobody is forcing them to but psychologically they are driven to.

There is some unknown force driving society to fall into line with doomsday theories. It isn't a recent phenomenon but a reoccurring one.

The two most famous ones are Y2K and 2012 as of the past decade or so. However, if you dig between the cracks on this website and others you will find hundreds of thousands of doomsday theories in between (and before).

The future isn't vaccinated from these theories either. Yesterday a relative of mine, whom is actually a science teacher, mentioned he read of an Asteroid on course to come very close to earth and/or strike earth in 2028. Really? 2028?

2000, 2012, 2028

When it comes to the date of the apocalypse pick your poison. But, many do choose to pick a poison.

Society obviously will be driven further to paranoia during times of economic stress, anxiety, and the ever increasing feeling of being out of control of their lives. I don't see that as the outer lying cause for this social movement.

Additionally these theories have been around for centuries. Is it a built-in fear of the end of times? Obviously the Bible mentions it which could be one of the very first instigators of these theories.

What makes people so confident they have the proper theory? Economically this is a battle between theories (sometimes) as they try to gain ground on a book, movie (2012), website (ATS), or other form of income.

So if doomsday is someone else's pyramid scheme, why are so many intelligent people prone to jumping on the bandwagon? Why don't we reach a point of spiritual enlightenment where we realize we can't predict the apocalypse?

Instead it is this faithful cycle of generations and generations believing the world will soon end. It has gone on for thousands of years and we never learn to live a faith based life, based on faith that tomorrow will come?

In your response please indicate whether or not you believe in a particular doomsday theory, and which one you fall in line with. This is just so that I can get some statistics at least on this isolated forum.

[edit on 17-1-2010 by Jedi411]


reply posted on 17-1-2010 @ 12:01 PM by chorizo3
reply to post by Jedi411



The world cannot end, because if it could end it would have done so long ago. Also, I cannot die because if I could die I would have died many years ago.

There are different types of Doomsday. Like an Eskimo who has many words to describe snow and maybe even facial expressions and hand gestures to go along with the words.

2012=False Doomsday, there is "Doomsday", and of course, "Final Doomsday". For now, when the sunspots start popping all over the sun, it will seem like a true Doomsday. Increased solar activity could also raise the dome at the lake in Yellowstone. So it will be scary enough. A tsunami, a destructive hurricane/typhoon season will all cause concern. In the next couple of years we will see a sampler plate of a true doomsday or a final doomsday, but there is time left.


reply posted on 17-1-2010 @ 12:17 PM by endisnighe
The endisnighe! the endisnighe! the endisnighe!


I'm sorry, I thought this was a thread about me.

The psychology of fear, is an awesome look into why we as people, fear things but why we like it so much. Ever wonder why those movies like Jaws or Friday the 13th do so well. We love to be scared, it gets the adrenaline and the other neurological endorphins flowing.

Ever have a close call? Remember that rush you got when the adrenal gland kicked in? How about the shakes that followed it? Remember the heightened sense of awareness?

Dread is another emotional response that could be said to cause these type of release of endorphins. Only without the adrenaline release.

I always wondered if these endorphins are addictive.

I remember a movie where an alien injected huge quantities of drugs into the humans and then extracted the endorphins for those drugs. Pretty cool concept.

I am more of a political doomer. Just read through my threads and you will see that-

The endisnighe!



As for the OP, have you never heard of THE RAPTURE. Or how about the doom of nuclear destruction in the 50's-80's, DUCK AND COVER!

We have been put in the box of fear and doom, since we were children. The boogeyman?

I think your OP should have been much longer and with some external links on the psychology of fear and maybe a few other things.

Doom is not new. It is as old as people themselves are.

Cool discussion by the way, will give you a flag but no star. You should have expanded your OP.

edit to add-The only doom I believe in is the absolute certainty that as people we will always be as stupid as the government that runs things are.

Other then that, maybe a biological warfare agent gets released like in Stephen King's The Stand and wipes out 99.99% of the Earth's population.

Now that one is scary, NO?

[edit on 1/17/2010 by endisnighe]


reply posted on 17-1-2010 @ 12:25 PM by Jedi411
reply to post by timewalker



From your article...


Further studies have ruled out the possibility of an impact in 2029, when the asteroid is expected to come no closer than 18,300 miles (29,450 kilometers) from Earth's surface, but they indicated a small possibility of a hit on subsequent encounters.



reply posted on 17-1-2010 @ 12:26 PM by chorizo3
reply to post by Jedi411



I am a person, like you, that's who. But, let's not forget that even a clock that is stopped is right twice a day. I believe that the earths' core has become increasingly unstable and there is a very real chance of a core breech during a solar maximum. I'm not seeing Yellowstone as being a big threat, but the notion of it is kinda scary.

Down there, on the ocean floor, the fissures, the superheated water, that can't escape, that is where I see the big problem. The sun can heat the planet not just on the surface but from the core out like a microwave oven. What's at the core? Possibly heavy metals? Anyhow, that's honestly how I see things.

There is an element of "to me ness" about our perceptions of reality and the future. Was Bishop Barkeley correct that our perceptions of reality could be so subjective that much critical thought was impossible, or was Shakespeare correct, "a rose by any name"...


reply posted on 17-1-2010 @ 12:29 PM by endisnighe
reply to post by chorizo3



Oooh, I forgot about Yellowstone.

There is another doom that is ripe with death and destruction. Good call.

I believe my endorphins are building, come on people-More Doom!



reply posted on 17-1-2010 @ 12:30 PM by timewalker
reply to post by Jedi411


I was just saying that the "asteroid" is real. Real enough for Russia to dedicate a space program for it.


reply posted on 17-1-2010 @ 12:32 PM by Kandinsky
Interesting OP

I reckon you could add feckless pessimists to that list too. Doomsday believers are likely as old as complex language. In a tribe of the distant past, there wasn't the word to express the concept of 'doomsday.' Someone had to invent it and then he bored or scared his fellow tribespeople with it. "For Frak's sake, Akl, enough already with the burning and the flooding. Go clean your frackin cave...it's like doomsday already happened in there!"

The 100% FAIL rate of Doom mongers won't pierce the 'Shield of Certainty' they all carry. A nice list is
44 failed & 1 ambiguous end-of-the-world
predictions between 30 and 1920.
Somewhere on this site is a list of several 100 failed prophecies, but I can't find it anymore.

You may have guessed I don't believe in Doomsday theories or prophets. Maybe I do a little bit? There could be a large enough asteroid with our name on it. The only thing that could ensure the end of the human race would need to be an immense environmental catastrophe. It'd have to be big enough to wipe out most life on the planet to get rid of us. We aren't extremophiles like the water bear, but we're pretty tenacious critters in the scheme of things.

PS Cool first thread, but fix the title, 'psychology.'

[edit on 17-1-2010 by Kandinsky]


reply posted on 17-1-2010 @ 12:39 PM by darkelf
reply to post by Jedi411



Are you saying that the world will never end? Or are you saying that our species (humans) will never suffer extinction? Species go extinct, planets die, I can't see us (or a future generation) ecaping this future. When is this future event? Who knows, but I believe this is a matter of when not if.


reply posted on 17-1-2010 @ 01:51 PM by Jedi411
Originally posted by darkelf
reply to
post by Jedi411



Are you saying that the world will never end?


What if it never does?

Originally posted by chorizo3
I am a person, like you, that's who. But, let's not forget that even a clock that is stopped is right twice a day.


Which is more methodical a clock or human emotion?

[edit on 17-1-2010 by Jedi411]


reply posted on 17-1-2010 @ 04:47 PM by redoubt
reply to post by Jedi411





In your response please indicate whether or not you believe in a particular doomsday theory, and which one you fall in line with. This is just so that I can get some statistics at least on this isolated forum.


LOL, sorry. I am neither smart enough to know when doomsday will come or silly enough to pretend to understand the human dynamic so well that I can simply classify people's individual logic like a carton of eggs.

People believe things for a variety of reasons and many who believe the same things did not arrive at said belief on the same bus.

And you know what? If doomsday DOES come... many of us are going to feel even sillier after we collected guffaws at their expense.

Just saying...





[edit on 17-1-2010 by redoubt]


reply posted on 17-1-2010 @ 05:00 PM by redoubt
reply to post by Jedi411





If doomsday does come it will not be predicted by conspiracy theorists and if the human race is extinct who will feel silly? Who will say, "I told you so"?


Point taken... but that does leave us back at square one. So, if it happens, it happens. If it does not, then all the better. As for those who feed from the subject? No harm done either way.

Cheers
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