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Originally posted by noconsequence
reply to post by nickoli
I am tired of just talking about change and would like to, "effect" change; uh, for a change. Now days, I'm fairly beat down/crippled, and do not believe I'd be a good foot soldier; though I am willing. What can I do?
How can we really get up and take our country back effectively enough now then? Like I said, I am tired of, "talking".. Hmm. Given my physical status, I would be a good candidate for a suicide mission, if it might count, and it's not, "stupid". I might make a good water boy!
No consequencE..
No. You would not make a good water boy.
As an aside, I suggest that all 'suicide missions' are "stupid;" it's why you don't come back.
Thank you.
Originally posted by ZindoDoone
reply to post by godless
I think you were being a bit tongue in cheek but seriously. Does a video have to be so sophisticated that it qualifies for an Emmy or Golden Globe to get it's message across? Regardless of the possibility that this was bogus the message rings true for many here in this country. Those that think no one will respond should our government start hauling off those that protest are ignoring the fact that in nearly every country where unrest takes place, they are no where near as armed nor trained as the American Shootest. We might take a long while to become PO'ed enough, but when the lives of our children and our grandchildren are at stake ( and they are now) they will come out of the woodwork to right wrongs. What type of reaction is not clear but it is a fact that the time will come if the winds of present change do not move in a different direction in the very near future!
Zindo
Originally posted by flyingfish
Hot air? fairy tails?This real my friend.Keep your head in the sand if it makes you sleep well a night.
chill out, Fish. The Feds are not at your door yet and nobody's trying to get your gun! I'm reminded of the militia movements of the 90's. All it took was Oklahoma City and the movement disappeared overnight. That one was an OBVIOUS false flag attack but the media spin and bad press completely took the steam out of the movement. I hope this latest bunch has a little more balls and staying power because your NWO will not play fair. Any group that they can discover and infiltrate will suddenly find themselves responsible for a horrific tragedy. The media will try them and they will all probably die in a stand-off like David Koresh. People like to bash Bush for the 9-11 conspiracy but it was Clinton that pioneered the way for all of the B.S. with Waco and Okie City.
[edit on 17-1-2010 by godless]
Originally posted by noconsequence
reply to post by nickoli
I am tired of just talking about change and would like to, "effect" change; uh, for a change. Now days, I'm fairly beat down/crippled, and do not believe I'd be a good foot soldier; though I am willing. What can I do?
How can we really get up and take our country back effectively enough now then? Like I said, I am tired of, "talking".. Hmm. Given my physical status, I would be a good candidate for a suicide mission, if it might count, and it's not, "stupid". I might make a good water boy!
No consequencE..
Thank you.
Legally, since your birth your artificial person, has been considered a slave or indentured servant to the various federal, provincial and municipal governments via your STATE-issued, STATE-created birth certificate in the name of your all-caps person. Your birth certificate was issued so that the issuer could claim "exclusive" title to the legal person created. This was further compounded when you voluntarily obtained a driver's license and a SSN (Social Security Number). The state even owns your personal and private life through your STATE-issued marriage license/certificate issued in the all-caps names. You have had no rights in birth, marriage, nor will you have them even in death unless you re-capture your strawman. (The names on tombstones in cemeteries are in all-caps.) The STATE holds the title to your legal person it created via your birth certificate, until Jane Mary Doe, the rightful owner, the holder in due course of the instrument, that is yourself, reclaims/redeems it.
Over the years government, through its "public" school system, has managed to pull the wool over our eyes & keep US ignorant of some very important facts. Because all facets of the media (print, radio, television) have an ever-increasing influence in our lives, & because media is controlled (with the issuance of licenses, etc.) by government & its agencies, we have slowly & systematically been led to believe that any form/appellation of our names is, in fact, still us: as long as the spelling is correct. WRONG!
Sending the non-negotiable Charge Back & Bill of Exchange accesses our Treasury Direct Account (TDA). What is our TDA? Let's go to Title 26 USC & take a look at section 163(h)(3)(B)(ii), $1,000,000 limitation: "The aggregate amount treated as acquisition indebtedness for any period shall not exceed $1,000,000 ($500,000 in the case of a married individual filing a separate return)."
When in commerce do as commerce does, use the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC)? The UCC-1 Financing Statement is the one contract in the world that can NOT be broken & it's the foundation of the Accepted For Value process. The power of this document is awesome.
Since the TDA exists for the straw man (Strawman) -who, until now, has been controlled by government - WE can gain control (& ownership) of the straw man (Strawman) by first activating the TDA & then filing an UCC-1 Financing Statement. This does two things for US.
First, by activating the TDA we gain limited control over the funds in the account. This allows US to also move entries, figures, & digits ... for OUR benefit.
Secondly, by properly filing an UCC-1 Financing Statement we can become the holder in due course of the straw man (Strawman). This gives us virtual ownership of the government created entity. So what? What does it all mean?
Remember earlier we mentioned that a presentment from government or one of its agents or agencies was a negative commercial claim against the straw man (Strawman) (& the Strawman's account, the TDA)? Remember we told you entries, figures, & digits moved from one side of the account to the other, or to a different account? Well now, with the straw man (Strawman) under our control, government has no access to the TDA & they also lose their go-between, their liaison, their "connection" to the real, living man & woman. From now on, when presented with a "claim" (presentment) from government, we will agree with it (this removes the "controversy") & we will ACCEPT IT FOR VALUE. By doing this we remove the negative claim against our account & become the "holder in due course" of the presentment. As holder in due course you can require the sworn testimony of the presenter of the "claim" (under penalty of perjury) & request the account be properly adjusted.
Originally posted by godless
Originally posted by ZindoDoone
reply to post by godless
Zindo
I was most definitely being tongue-in-cheek and having a little sarcastic fun with the video. In my opinion these people are just posers out to see if they can stir up a little trouble for themselves. I have met a few of the real bad-asses in my time, and, to my mind, these guys are definitely not them. Maybe they think they can frighten their UberLords with their YouTube video, I really don't know. I really doubt that any serious force of committed "patriots" would take this approach. Releasing a dopey video for general consumption isn't really going to do their cause any good. If and when the round-up starts the are going to have to fight like the Insurgency in Iraq did/does. That means they'll need as much cover and secrecy as they can possibly muster. Why announce anything to the masters? All you are doing is making thenm aware that you exist and setting yourselves up for infiltration by their agents.
Here's a fact I'll bet you didn't know, back in the '60's, when the riots happened in Chicago at the Democratic Convention, the notorious SDS, (Students for a Democratic Society), was blamed by many officials for inciting the violence. Many years later, documents retireved by the Freedom of Information Act showed that almost 75% of the people involved in that orgaization at the time were government plants! They were there to make sure that the SDS did something stupid so the government could have an excuse to round them all up. Any revolutionary civilian army worth supporting is not going to announce its presence to the NWO. They'll be too smart for that.
Originally posted by ventian
This is the kind of crap that scares me. You want to have faith that these are the good guys but you have to take the time to consider what role they may be playing. These kind of videos go out and are hailed by some (which is fine) but many people blow these guys off. The more that people that blow these type videos off the harder it becomes to convince others that this stuff may be heading our way. It is like Obama promising Change. The more you hear it the less effective it is. Just my personal take on it.