and they can do his bidding without answering to anyone but him.

I was picking it apart because that's what needs to be done with it.

Also, one of the firsy gut reactions I had when reading this was, this also seems to bypass the 10th ammendment and states rights.

He would only invoke executive power to do this for an extreme reason, and perhaps there is more than one reason.

Does it reassign the National Guard power to the Fed? Seems to me it reassigns a lot of power to a realtively small group of people that have to answer to only one person. Obama.

From a post I made in another forum
The following 15 points are based upon factual historical evidence:

1st: In 1863, Lincoln instituted martial law. He ordered that the States (people) either conscribe troops and provide money in support of the North, or be recognized as an enemy of the nation. This martial law Act of Congress is still in effect today - what it means is that the President has dictatorial authority to do anything that can be done by the government in accord with the Constitution of the United States of America. This is the foundation of Presidential Executive Orders.

2nd: The District of Columbia Organic Act of 1871 created a private corporation (hereinafter "Corp. U.S.") owned and operated by the actual government for the purpose of carrying out the business needs of the government under martial law. This was done under the constitutional authority for Congress to pass any law within the ten mile square of Washington, District of Columbia.

3rd: In said Act, Corp. U.S. adopted their own constitution (United States Constitution), which was identical to the national Constitution (Constitution of the United States of America) except that it was missing the national constitution's 13th Amendment. The national constitution's 13th, 14th and 15th amendments are respectively numbered 14th, 15th and 16th amendments in their constitution.

4th: The corporation began to generate debts via bonds etc., which came due in 1912, but they could not pay their debts so the 7 families that bought up the bonds demanded payment and Corp. U.S. could not pay. Said families settled the debt for the payments of all of Corp. U.S.' assets and for all of the assets of the Treasury of the United States of America.

5th: As 1913 began, Corp. U.S. had no funds to carry out the necessary business needs of the government so they went to said families and asked if they could borrow some money. The families said no (Corp. U.S. had already demonstrated that they would not repay their debts in full). The families had foreseen this situation and had the year before finalized the creation of a private corporation of the name "Federal Reserve Bank". Corp. U.S. formed a relationship with the Federal Reserve Bank whereby they could transact their business via note rather than with money. Notice that this relationship was one made between two private corporations and did not involve government; that is where most people error in understanding the Federal Reserve Bank system-again it has no government relation at all. The private contracts that set the whole system up even recognize that if anything therein proposed is found illegal or impossible to perform it is excluded from the agreements and the remaining elements remain in full force and effect.

6th: Almost simultaneously with the last fact (also in 1913), Corp. U.S. passes and adopts (as if ratified) their own 16th amendment. It must be noted that this amendment has nothing to do with our nation, with our people or with our national Constitution, which already had its own 16th amendment. The Supreme Court ruled that it did nothing that was not already done other than to make plain and clear the right of the United States (Corp. U.S.) to tax corporations. We agree, considering that they were created under the authority of Corp. U.S.

7th: Next (also 1913) Congress passed and entered the 17th amendment as ratified, even though the states had no opportunity to ratify the same. This amendment is not only not ratified, it is not constitutional; the Constitution forbids Congress from even discussing the matter of where Senators are elected.

8th: In 1914, the Freshman class and all Senators that successfully ran for re-election in 1913 by popular vote are seated in Corp. U.S. capacity only.

9th: In 1917, Corp. U.S. enters WWI and passes their Emergency War Powers, and Trading with the Enemies Acts.

10th: In 1918, President Wilson is re-elected by the Electoral College but their election is required to be confirmed by the constitutionally set Senate; where in the new Corp. U.S., only Senators were allowed to participate in the Electoral College vote confirmation. The only authority that could possibly have been used for electoral confirmation was corporate only. Therefore, President Wilson was not confirmed into office for his second term as President of the United States of America and was only seated in the Corp. U.S. Presidential capacity. Therefore the original jurisdiction government's seats were vacated because the people didn't seat any original jurisdiction government officers.

11th: In 1933, the Trading with the Enemies Act is adjusted to recognize the people of the United States of America as enemies of Corp. U.S.

12th: In 1944, under the Bretton Woods Agreement, Corp. U.S. is quit claimed to the International Monetary Fund, and becomes a foreign controlled private corporation.

13th: Some time after 1935, you ask Social Security Administration for a relationship with their program. They create an entity with a name (that sounds like your name but is spelled with all capital letters) and a depository account number in the Social Security General Trust Fund (GTF). They give you the Social Security card which identifies you as the single person with authority to control the entity they created (on review: you may notice that the Social Security Administration was the creator of the entity, the GTF is its beneficiary and you were made its Trustee.) More importantly: this capacity does not limit you or your capacity to act in your sovereign capacity in any way.

14th: In 1968, at the national governors' conference in Lexington, Kentucky, the IMF leaders of the event proposed the dilemma the State governors were in for carrying out their business dealings in Federal Reserve Notes (foreign notes), which is forbidden in the national and State constitutions, alleging that if they did not do something to protect themselves the people would discover what had been done with their money and would likely kill them all and start over. They suggested the States form corporations like Corp. U.S. and showed the advantages of the resultant uniform codes that could be created, which would allow better and more powerful control over the people.

15th: By 1971, every State government in the union of States had formed such private corporations (Corp. State), in accord with the IMF admonition, and the people ceased to seat original jurisdiction government officials in their State government seats.

Now, having stated these historical facts, we ask you not to believe us, but rather prove these facts for yourself. We then ask you to contact us with any evidence you find that proves or disproves these facts.

When you find there is no error, then remember these simple facts and let no one dissuade you from the truth.

The Bottom Line: when you speak about these private foreign corporations, remember that is what they are and stop calling them government.

Further, it is very important that we cease to attempt to fix them. It is far more important that we learn how to reseat our original jurisdiction government and spread the word about the truth. By reseating our State and national governments in their original jurisdiction nature, we gain the capacity to hold these private foreign corporations accountable. They owe us a lot of money, in fact they owe us more money than there is available in the world. The fact is that it is impossible for them to pay and that gives us the leverage we need to take back our nation and put things right. The process is a simple one. The difficulty is in getting our people to wake up to the truth. That's why we ask you to prove the truth for yourself and contact us with the evidence you discover.

That means that you must stop acting and communicating like you are anything other than the sovereign that God created you to be. And, stop referring to Corp. U.S. or the STATE OF 'X' as anything other than the private foreign corporations that they are. And, finally, stop listening to the Bigfoot Patriot mythology that is espoused by those that only give these facts lip service.

It is time that we all start to wake up and follow the truth, that is to repent and become a moral and honorable society instead of lauding our Christianity while we stand guilty of:

(a) not knowing the truth;
(b) not living the truth;
(c) believing that God will save us even though we have the tools to know the truth the ability to use the tools but we refuse to live by the truth and use the tools we have to save ourselves and thereby become free.

The biggest problem with the so called Patriot Movement is that its proponents are all excited about uniting against the tyranny of Corp. U.S. even though they are blind to the truth, have no remedy, and bail out of "the system" hell bent for a rebellion that even the scripture says cannot be won. Would that we could instead unite with truth and legally, lawfully and peacefully reseat our original jurisdiction government to take back control our nation.

This bill does not grants absolute power to the council as shown here

"Nothing in this order shall be construed to impair or otherwise affect:
(1)
the authority granted by law to department, agency, or the head thereof; or (2)
functions of the Director of the Office of Management and Budget relating to budgetary,administrative, or legislative proposals.
(b)
This order shall be implemented consistent with applicable law and subject to the availability of appropriations. more "

Many members have stated that by the definition of terrorism in this bill that many members of government would be considered terrorists. I believe this is exactly what it means. He has begun to realise that terrorism is being spread from within his own government and wishes to stop it.

I think this, along with his recent order to allow interpole to freely prosecute in the US, is an attempt to bring these secret sects to justice.

Gen. Orders No. 100 by President Lincoln

Our government has been infiltrated and this measure will allow the right measures to be taken in the event of an attempted coup by the enemy.

Originally posted by harvib
reply to post by JJay55

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Our government has been infiltrated and this measure will allow the right measures to be taken in the event of an attempted coup by the enemy.

So in order to do so the b]States' National Guard need to be removed from the control of the states and placed into the hands of the Department of Defense?

[edit on 15-1-2010 by harvib]

Originally posted by harvib
reply to post by JJay55

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So, in your opinion, it is going to be the national guard raiding and arresting individuals within the infiltrated agencies?

The job of the national guard is to protect and not shoot. Other agencies can shoot. We have the national guard in Iraq, they can't shoot. Blackwater can shoot. I certainly would want the protection agency that is keeping gangs from knocking down my doors and raping my children and stealing my supplies to be able to shoot. Get it?

These regional governors get their power from the Federal Government, through the President, through a executive order.

Unless you don't realize that during a state of declared emergency, states administrative capabilities will be superceded by the council. In and of itself this might not be of importance.

Originally posted by harvib
reply to post by jaundice

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These regional governors get their power from the Federal Government, through the President, through a executive order.

This executive order actually doesn't give any of the state governors additional power including those that populate the council. Prior to the change in authority over the States' National Guard the respective governors had authority over their respective State's National Guard now only the DOD has control. The advisory council of Governors is likely in place to give the illusion of State influence.

Unless you don't realize that during a state of declared emergency, states administrative capabilities will be superceded by the council. In and of itself this might not be of importance.

It's worse then that! This is in effect whether there is an emergency or not. The States' National Guard is now in the hands of the Federal Government.

Here is the first thread he started minutes after registering. A bit polished for a newbie don't you think? It's designed to lead you around like sheep.

He's after you. Call him on it. I don't know who he works for but, he's not legit.

Forget for a bit that I am on the opposing side, and just read how he thinks it is you go about spreading your ideology. You judge.