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Taken by itself, this executive order does little more than add another layer of bureaucracy dealing with the use of the National Guard. It should be remembered, however, that in 2006 Congress turned the National Guard into something akin to a Praetorian Guard to be used — whether at home or abroad — as the president desires. This helps explain an obvious and ominous change in the Guard’s definition of its mission and responsibilities, which include hands-on involvement in domestic law enforcement.
It’s also worth pointing out that this new Council represents yet another avenue through which the president can circumvent congressional resistance to military adventurism, in the highly unlikely event that such resistance were to coalesce.
While it’s true that Obama’s executive order will not immediately result in troops flooding our cities and detention camps springing from the soil, it represents a critical milestone on the road to undisguised dictatorship. -
Originally posted by Grumble
Originally posted by Signals
Sec. 5. General Provisions. more 3 (c) This order is not intended to, and does not, createany right or benefit, substantive or procedural, enforceable atlaw or in equity by any party against the United States, itsdepartments, agencies, or entities, its officers, employees, oragents, or any other person.
What does that mean?
It means "You can't sue us, bitch."
Originally posted by pilotdavems
Well, this does not look like a real (authentic) paper from the U. S. Govt.
No number, signature, etc. like other exec. orders for example. I'd bet this is a hoax.
Thanks for playin' along though.
Originally posted by beebs
Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by whitewave
If you read it you would see that they only have 2 year terms. And the governors can't have more then 5 members of one party. Even the chairs each have to be each party. Both parties are equally represented.
So there is a pretty good chance that all states will be at least represented once.
yea, giving those governors an opportunity to talk about the national gaurd and other security concerns is such a huge scary thing.
This is giving the states more power as far as I am concerned.
[edit on 12-1-2010 by nixie_nox]
I will have to disagree with you there, for the document says that after the 2 year term they can be reappointed:
(a) There is established a Council of Governors (Council).
The Council shall consist of 10 State Governors appointed by
the President (Members), of whom no more than five shall be of
the same political party. The term of service for each Member
appointed to serve on the Council shall be 2 years, but a Member
may be reappointed for additional terms.
And also, you might have missed that this is an Executive Order, so I see no reason why he would want to increase state power. It seems to me this is a blatant usurpation of state power, because the states are now underneath one of the new Ten Kings in a hierarchy.
Also, to reinforce the president's almost exclusive power granted by this order:
(b) The President shall designate two Members, who
shall not be members of the same political party, to serve as
Co-Chairs of the Council.
Well ATS, lets hope Obama is good deep down, because if he isn't then we will soon see some crazy stuff. Or maybe either way we will... who knows
edit to add: and lets admit, any blabber about it being balanced because it has an equal number of each party is no more than a gimmick...
[edit on 12-1-2010 by beebs]
He's giving more control of the national guard to governors... can someone explain to me what I'm missing?
(a) Joint Activity of the Department of Defense- Subsection (a) of section 10501 of title 10, United States Code, is amended by striking `joint bureau of the Department of the Army and the Department of the Air Force' and inserting `joint activity of the Department of Defense'.
The President shall establish a bipartisan Council of Governors to advise the Secretary of Defense, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the White House Homeland Security Council on matters related to the National Guard and civil support missions.
I honestly don't see anything sinister about this.