9/11 Survivors, and Daniel Sanjata Speak w/ WAC engage JC residents Q&A *Updated*, page 2

reply to post by ugie1028

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Good job sir

I want to attend seminar's of the same type.

It was great that you went, and even better that you recorded it.

Kudo's to you.

Dont let the OS peeps rain on you, If George W came clean and

admitted it, they would still say it was faked.

reply to post by ugie1028

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Thank you Ugie1028, for the presentation. It was great. I wish I could have been there. I am glad that William Rodriguez cleared up something and now you have a tape of him saying it.
I had been in a debate with imapepper about William Rodriguez and according to imapepper he claims that Rodriguez couldn’t be believed in and that he was a lair because, he couldn’t keep his story straight. It did not make sense to me why an honest person would need to lie in the first place and I never have caught him in any lie.

William Rodriguez has made it very clear in this meeting that the Press and News outlets and some News papers have edited out a lot of his statements and even changed some of his statements without his approval. The Press had a field day twisting what he said around, why I am not surprised. Because the corrupt MSM cannot tell the truth about anything these days, why would we expect MSM to tell William Rodriguez story without lying. It’s not Rodriguez who has been lying, it’s the media and they don’t like Rodriguez for telling the truth.

The mainstream media is not your friend they are your enemy and should be treated so. What do you call something that you cannot trust you can call it your enemy.

Because William Rodriguez story does not support the OS it leave two thing here, one the OS is a lie, or two William Rodriguez is a lair.
I have seen enough proof that the OS is a lie in every event that has been told by our government, media, NIST, and the 911 Commission. I have read these lies I have seen these lies, and one has to wonder why anyone would want to defend these lies.

My “opinion” is because, they are paid too, and this makes them criminals by protecting the real criminal who carried out such a treasonous act, (those that are paid) shame on them! These criminals in the past Administration that committed these evil acts with help from a handful of military experts should be hung in public for what they did.


These same evil cowards end up leavening office in such a political disgraces, and while leaving this country on a brink of bankruptcy with their approvals ratings hitting rock bottom.

These traitors were a disgraces to the United States yet, they leave laughing in our faces and having already made their fortunes by their evil deed, and they sit smug, while your tax dollars are being used to protect these criminals for the rest of their lives, while all their records in their administration lay buried forever-hidding under National Security secrets, so no civilian eyes will never see the truth.

SphinxMontreal, thanks for the great video. I watched it with great sadness and with the knowledge, I have learned over the years in my search for the truth of 911. It pains me to watch those events unfold knowing that it all could have been stopped if not for the criminal evil greed of a few men in power.









[edit on 11-1-2010 by impressme]

reply to post by GoodOlDave

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Dave , do you have any proof of no bodies ?

Dave, do you have any proof of fires down elevator shafts?

You pleading us to believe you won't cut it, Your credibility is not the

greatest .

You say the lobby was blown out to Jet Fuel down elevator , windows in

the lobby blown out to Jet Fuel.

Thats a big no.

William Rodriguez, CNN interview 9/11/01

RODRIGUEZ: I was in the basement, which is the support floor for the maintenance company, and we hear like a big rumble. Not like an impact, like a rumble, like moving furniture in a massive way. And all of sudden we hear another rumble, and a guy comes running, running into our office, and all of skin was off his body. All of the skin.

We went crazy, we started screaming, we told him to get out. We took everybody out of the office outside to the loading dock area. Then I went back in, and when I went back in I saw people -- I heard people that were stuck on an the elevator, on a freight elevator because all of the elevators went down. And water was going in, and they were probably getting drowned. And we get a couple of pipes and opened the elevator and we got the people out.

I went back up and saw one of the officers from the Port Authority Police, I been working there for 20 years so I knew him very well. My routine on the World Trade Center is in charge of the staircase, and since there was no elevator service, I have the master keys for all the staircase doors.

transcripts.cnn.com...

Funny, he mentions hearing a rumble, like furniture moving...not an explosion. And not prior to the impact....

William Rodriguez, CNN, Sept 11, 2002

transcripts.cnn.com...

Can anyone explain why he did not start mentioning explosions for several years after 9/11/01?

Originally posted by Sean48
reply to post by GoodOlDave

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Dave , do you have any proof of no bodies ?

Dave, do you have any proof of fires down elevator shafts?

You pleading us to believe you won't cut it, Your credibility is not the

greatest .

You say the lobby was blown out to Jet Fuel down elevator , windows in

the lobby blown out to Jet Fuel.

Thats a big no.

Your own pet witness William Rodriguez talked of a fireball down the elevator shaft but when I pointed this out earlier you just went into denial mode.

Fact is Mr Rodriguez has said more and more about 9/11 the further he has got from it in time. Could it have been something to do with getting on the truther circuit or his failed lawsuit ?:-

en.wikipedia.org...

Anyway, perhaps you could explain to me why the perps thought it necessary to burn people in the lobby when it is obvious the North Tower collapsed from where the plane hit ?

reply to post by Alfie1

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Hmmm. Why is it that the OS is full of contradictions and stories that changed over time but it is still credible? Two sets of standards here?

Originally posted by Lillydale
reply to post by Alfie1

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Hmmm. Why is it that the OS is full of contradictions and stories that changed over time but it is still credible? Two sets of standards here?

Lillydale

I am not aware of the "OS" " stories that changed over time ".

Apart from initial confusion it seems to me that the "OS" has been consistent. Perhaps you would let me know what you have in mind.

For example, with regard to the Towers which we have been considering here, the "OS" is that they were both struck by Boeing 767's which had been hi-jacked by muslim extremists. AA 11 hit the North Tower and UA 175 the South. The impact and the resultant fires brought the towers down.

Now, if you want to consider changing stories, have a look at some truther views of what happened to the Towers. It was planes, it was no planes, it was faked video, it was holograms, it was military planes made to look like Boeing 767's, it was missiles, it was planes firing missiles just before impact, it was remote-controlled planes, it was energy beam weapons, it was controlled demolition by regular means which morphed into thermite/thermate/ super whatever (when it was realised that sound was a problem) and now seems to have gone full circle with thermate and conventional explosive being flavour of the month (because it now seems to be appreciated that thermate is an incendiary quite unsuitable for demolishing a skyscaper ).

I am sure I have missed out many a pet theory but you get my drift.

Originally posted by Alfie1

Originally posted by Lillydale
reply to post by Alfie1

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Hmmm. Why is it that the OS is full of contradictions and stories that changed over time but it is still credible? Two sets of standards here?

Lillydale

I am not aware of the "OS" " stories that changed over time ".

Apart from initial confusion it seems to me that the "OS" has been consistent. Perhaps you would let me know what you have in mind.

Off the top of my head? AA77's black boxes found in THREE different places. UA93 was shot down. UA93 was overtaken by passengers. Sorry, just off the top of my head. I will see about getting a list together for you.

reply to post by Sean48

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It took him three years to realize that was an explosion he heard? Give me a break. Each time he starts to fade from view, his story changes to bring him back into the limelight.

reply to post by Swampfox46_1999

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It took him three years to realize that was an explosion he heard? Give me a break. Each time he starts to fade from view, his story changes to bring him back into the limelight.

I disagree with you, I think William Rodriguez has kept to his OS from the start and I believe him, because he was there and you were not. Many people who were in the WTC support Rodriguez story. You criticize Rodriguez because you do not want to believe there could have been explosives in the WTC.





[edit on 12-1-2010 by impressme]

reply to post by impressme

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I disagree with you, I think William Rodriguez has keep to his OS from the start and I believe him, because he was there and you were not. Many people who were in the WTC support Rodriguez story. You criticize Rodriguez because you do not want to believe there could have been explosives in the WTC.

It is truly amazing that you continue to cling to your ideas, even after someone shows you the facts. Rodriguez changed his story several years after 9/11 (and he continues to make changes to it even today).

reply to post by Swampfox46_1999

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It is truly amazing that you continue to cling to your ideas, even after someone shows you the facts. Rodriguez changed his story several years after 9/11 (and he continues to make changes to it even today).

I cling to the truth and it really amazes me how you still cling to a proven OS lie as long as you have been on ATS.
William Rodriguez may not tell his story like a “tape recorder” keeping ever word exactly the same.

You were not there, William Rodriguez saw everything, he was in the explosions with others in the basement, and YOU were not. So who is creditable in here, an OS believer who cannot give any “creditable proof” that the OS is true or an eyewitness who was in the WTC when it blew up and is making it very clear that our government is covering up a crime.





[edit on 12-1-2010 by impressme]

reply to post by impressme

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You were not there, William Rodriguez saw everything, he was in the explosions with others in the basement, and YOU were not. So who is creditable in here, an OS believer who cannot give any “creditable proof” that the OS is true or an eyewitness who was in the WTC when it blew up and is making it very clear that our government is covering up a crime.

YOU were not there either. I, on the other hand, know several other people that were there, and they refer to Mr Rodriguez as a money grubbing charlatan. So, go ahead and swallow his kool aid.....he's laughing to himself on the way to the bank.

reply to post by ugie1028

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Unfortunately for Mr Rodriguez, the unedited video/audio of his interviews on CNN still exists.

Poor guy is trying to do the right thing, and you guys try to rip him a new one. you rely on people who weren't even there, instead of listening to witnesses first hand experience. i would take their word over anyone else. PERIOD!

You obviously did not pay attention. Ive talked to a few people that were there. Their accounts, make it clear that Mr R, is a publicity seeking, money grubbing individual.

[edit on 12-1-2010 by Swampfox46_1999]

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