Only one percent of the Holocaust claims can be proven - Says Holocaust Scholar and Expert, page 1
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Topic started on 6-1-2010 @ 07:56 AM by Sharrow
This is a report with the leading Holocaust Scholar Robert Jan Van Pelt, what I've found interesting.

www.thestar.com...

There is one sentence, which is... hmmm, strange a bit.


Ninety-nine per cent of what we know we do not actually have the physical evidence to prove . . . it has become part of our inherited knowledge.


So my question is, if a leading expert in this report says they can prove only ONE PERCENT of these claims, why they're suprised when people have doubts regarding this matter? And also if this is true, and why a Holocaust expert and scholar would lie, why the officials are saying this is the most documented event in history, while it's clearly can be heard from an official expert, it's not.

Please debate about this matter in a civilized manner. Please skip any sort of racism in this thread. But I'd like to hear both sides' opinion in this matter, because I find it really interesting.

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reply posted on 6-1-2010 @ 08:36 AM by Sharrow
reply to post by GW8UK



What can we do?

Searching and revealing the truth, whatever it is, as we're doing a long time ago here at ATS regarding conspiracies, myths and legends. What else can we do?

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reply posted on 6-1-2010 @ 08:57 AM by Sharrow
reply to post by Monts



However, ask any WW2 vet who liberated any of those death camps, and they will tell you that they were definitely death camps.

Death camps or labor camps where people died? The two are not the same I believe.


I have often wondered how much is written and known about the holocaust was actually true. In my mind, I think it would be pretty easy to fake/grossly exaggerate the numbers of people who were killed.
Yes. Exaggerate the numbers is pretty easy. Proving it is the hard way. And if what Mr. Van Pelt is true, it's not proven at all. So the question remains, what the truth really is in this matter?

What Queen Annie said, those look ups are partially proving this claim completely. So how a story can be true and false at the same time? It can't be. Stories are true or false, but cannot be both.

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reply posted on 6-1-2010 @ 09:13 AM by HappilyEverAfter
reply to post by Sharrow


I've read alot, talked alot, watched alot, and the link I posted sums up what I've learned so far, and it will help to get to other good information.


reply posted on 6-1-2010 @ 09:40 AM by mamabeth
reply to post by Sharrow



When the last survivor and the last witness dies,I'm sure there will be
a celebration.Then the job of completely denying the holocaust will
continue,until it is thought of as a fairy tale.
Since we don't learn from our mistakes,we are doomed to repeat them.


reply posted on 6-1-2010 @ 09:46 AM by really
Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to
post by Sharrow



When the last survivor and the last witness dies,I'm sure there will be
a celebration.Then the job of completely denying the holocaust will
continue,until it is thought of as a fairy tale.
Since we don't learn from our mistakes,we are doomed to repeat them.


You're the only one who has made complete sense here. Good for you. Thanks for reconfirming my hope that there are some sane people.



reply posted on 6-1-2010 @ 09:50 AM by Sharrow
reply to post by mamabeth

Actually one of your very own people said this, who is a scholar in this matter and an expert. So at the moment, don't blame others for this, please. At the moment those people that for you may pointing or may referring has no connection to this at all.


Since we don't learn from our mistakes,we are doomed to repeat them.

Unfortunately it's human nature, what I also hate. But at the moment as I said above, a scholar whose is an ace in this matter said this. So the question remains, why? At the moment your very own scholar is doing what you hate so much.

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reply posted on 6-1-2010 @ 10:03 AM by mamabeth
reply to post by Sharrow



I am not jewish,I just support the jewish people and Israel! I also had
a relative who helped liberate one of those camps during WW2.Until the
baby boomers and WW2 buffs all die out, there will be a rememberence
of the holocaust.


reply posted on 6-1-2010 @ 10:05 AM by Sharrow
reply to post by mamabeth


Sorry, I misunderstood. But the question still remains why one of their own scholar says this? Is it not true? Or he just knows that the numbers or some legends are not covering the truth? I don't know what his reason is, but it clearly seems he directly added this little snippet into his interview. The question is; what his reason really was?

I just support... Israel!

I don't. I don't like when Israelis are stating they're willing up to buy my nation's lands, claiming our land is theirs (Hungary) and willing to ruin my proud nation and our traditions. But that's a different story. But they're Zionists what is a great difference as someone above already mentioned.

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reply posted on 6-1-2010 @ 10:15 AM by mamabeth
reply to post by Sharrow



Or...it could be that time,in history, is too painful to think of.Since,most
of the survivors and witnesses,are dying off,it would be easier to let the
past go and forget it.The old saying...out of sight,out of mind!
Then people can say,no proof, no witnesses,no survivors,it didn't happen.
Then, you sound like that president in Iran,who denies the holocaust ever
occured.
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