Shooting At Home Of Mohammed Cartoonist

Give it up, no matter how many times you say it, there will always be apologists on here. I wonder how many here who have had their homeland destroyed by this filth would feel the same way. I'm betting they'll feel different when it happens to them.

Somali group hails attack on Cartoonist

Get's difficult for the apologist to defend when more and more are coming out saying this was a good thing.

Sometimes I think the 1,400 year old islamic Jihad is the largest conspiracy in history. I meet so many that deny it even exists. Islamic culture is a brutal system that, in my opinion, strives to keep the populace in a quasi-bicameral state and extremely susceptible to the whims of the external authority structures constructed by the religious elite class.

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Really? YOu have personally talked to these millions and you know they are coming to attack those with freedom?

I am sure the military would want to talk to you to know the location of all these people so they can eradicate them.

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They will tell you themselves, just ask them.
Good luck to you.

Someone posted earlier that the cartoonist had abandoned the grand daughter and run off to the safe room. I would just like to query the source for that as every bit of news I have seen in the UK has said they BOTH went to the safe room. But even if they didn't, who here can 100% say how they would act if someone turned up in your home to kill you?
I just wish someone would re-make the film Life of Brian, with Muhammed as the focus. There were Christian protests at this film. Imagine if it was Muslims! There would be riots and fatwas at the least.
Salman Rushdie anyone?
Did we imagine the mass riots and death threats when these cartoons were published? Oh I know - they were all actors sponsored by the CIA!

To repeat - no one is saying that every Muslim is a jhadist or a terrorist for heavens sake. But to deny that Islam doesn't spawn fundamentalist terrorists is denying reality.
So how do you protect peace loving people (including Muslims) from these deluded scum? That's the question.
Personally I would like to get us out of Iraq and Afghanistan. Certainly in the former, I think WE are the terrorists. Unfortunately I don't think this would magic an end to the problem.




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Originally posted by nixie_nox
YOu have personally talked to these millions and you know they are coming to attack those with freedom?

I am sure the military would want to talk to you to know the location of all these people so they can eradicate them.

Difficult times for ordinary Muslims who just want to get on with their lives and not be branded as Jihadists. I know a lot of them.

Unfortunately neutral ones often feel cowed into submission. They may not support the whole Jihad thing but don't want to speak out against other Muslims. The women suffer the most.

Surprisingly the Christian world is very forgiving. Most people I've seen do their best to be sympathetic and cordial to Muslims they interface with.

The viciousness and racism one hears about is more common on the Internet especially in forums like this where everything is polarized.

Originally posted by mmiichael

Originally posted by nixie_nox

Unfortunately neutral ones often feel cowed into submission. They may not support the whole Jihad thing but don't want to speak out against other Muslims. The women suffer the most.

Surprisingly the Christian world is very forgiving. Most people I've seen do their best to be sympathetic and cordial to Muslims they interface with.

The viciousness and racism one hears about is more common on the Internet especially in forums like this where everything is polarized.

Unfortunately the neutral or moderate Muslims do not publicly voice oposition to the actions of Muslim Fundamentalists and Extremists and their silence is deafening. It's taken by the west as colusion.
I don't think people should use threats or call people names on forrums, I agree this is not productive.

The other issue that puts me offside is that Muslims are above critisism, that people cannot voice their concerns, or even their musings. To speak out against a muslim or the Koran or Mohhamed you are labeled racist and in some cases your very life is in jeopardy. No other religion today produces more hatred and vitriole then Islam, through it's believers reactions to everyone else on this planet.



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Originally posted by Regenstorm
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I don't call his cartoons a hoax, the "assault" is meant!
BTW, I don't believe these cartoons were published because of free speech but to provoke! Westervoort knew he was in trouble before publishing these cartoons.
If I go to a mosque during a mess and I call Mohammed a goat......

it isn't free speech but insulting, and that is exactly what Westervoort did.
He should be prosecuted for disturbing peace and provoking terrorism!

prosecuted??? for insulting someone??? what's wrong with you...are you 4 years old?, a baby? a whiner?? grow the f up, act like an adult...i don't know about you, but if i see one of these guys coming toward me with an ax, i'm blowing his brains out. these fanatics need to be killed, not pampered by some religious freedom people. THIS IS NOT RELIGION, THIS IS A "JOIN ME OR I KILL YOU" ORGANIZATION

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When you can effectively demonize the religion billions subscribe to, you can perpetually keep viable the opportunity for war including invasions, preemptive attacks, occupations, indoctrination to more Christianized forms of democracy, and nation building, in any nation where that evil religion has infected a majority.

Something stinks in here.

Smells a lot like burnt underwear.



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we all remember the 'protestor' after the mohammed comics incident who's sign read;

"behead those who say islam is violent"

now that was just pure comical genius,

Originally posted by Walkswithfish
When you can effectively demonize the religion billions subscribe to, you can perpetually keep viable the opportunity for war including invasions, preemptive attacks, occupations, indoctrination to more Christianized forms of democracy, and nation building, in any nation where that evil religion has infected a majority.

Something stinks in here.

Smells a lot like burnt underwear.

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Agreed. Islam has demonized Christians and all non-muslims for long enough. It is time we called them to task for their transgressions against all mankind.

Free Constantinople!

The terrible thing with the published cartoons was that efforts were made to make them humorous but not offensive.

But a group of Danish Imams sent out a package to Muslim medai and mosques where they included obscene cartoons not in the Danish paper. These were pretty vile, Mohammed doing it with an animal, if I recall and another really pornographic image.

Still today the Muslim world never acknowledges this inflammatory tactic from it's own clerics.

The original cartoons are actually pretty lightweight and not really offensive, by Western standards.

Would it be going to far in stating Muslims tend to overreact?

Insecurity? Low self-esteem?

I think the only way to sort out this muslim problem is by nuking all the 47 muslim countries and treat the muslims in the west like the serbs treated muslims in bosnia.

Muslims are behind all the wars, genocides, terrorist and criminals activites and history has shown than to us clearly.

Once all the muslims are dead, we will see real love and peace on this beautiful planet.

Originally posted by mmiichael

The terrible thing with the published cartoons was that efforts were made to make them humorous but not offensive.

But a group of Danish Imams sent out a package to Muslim medai and mosques where they included obscene cartoons not in the Danish paper. These were pretty vile, Mohammed doing it with an animal, if I recall and another really pornographic image.

Still today the Muslim world never acknowledges this inflammatory tactic from it's own clerics.

The original cartoons are actually pretty lightweight and not really offensive, by Western standards.

Would it be going to far in stating Muslims tend to overreact?

Insecurity? Low self-esteem?

Gender imbalance allows for muslim men to "have" little boys and animals. It's something our troops are told to just look the other way from. Thursday before Friday Holy Day is like fuuckfest when these practices usually happen. So making light of this in cartoons is exposing illegal activity that is unspoken.

But yeah, coming from their own clerics...

Charles Manson did not actually murder anyone. He ordered his cult members to do so.
He will die in jail.

So why aren't the Imams who issue fatwas held accountable for the actions of their crazed cult members?

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Lost to history is that the outrage created by the Danish cartoons was mostly the handiwork of the "Islamisk Trossamfund" (Islamic Society of Denmark) which added 3 images, one of a dog mounting a lady in a burka, one of a demonic picture of Mohammed labelled "DEN PAEDOFILE 'PROFET' MUHAMMED" the third an image of a man with a pig face which has been traced to an previously published photo "Jacques Marrot performing in the French Pig-Squealing Championships"

The Danish imams claimed the photos were sent to them anonymously and refuse to reveal their source. They composed a 43 page dossier which was distributed worldwide being attention to their cause which included having the UN force sanctions on Denmark.

bibelen.blogspot.com...

The Danish newspaper, Ekstra Bladet, has obtained a copy of the secret case file, which Islamisk Trossamfund (Islamic Society of Denmark) has distributed on their "road show" in the Middle East: The imam and the unbelievers of Denmark (the article links to all 43 pages in the booklet).

It turns out that the 12 drawings in JyllandsPosten weren't sufficiently bad - at least not to justify a trip to the Middle East - so the imams have inserted a few extra images to make sure their trip wasn't a waste of money.

Danish Islamic Society claim they have received these images in mail, but they refuse to tell Danish newspapers, who has received them - and they won't allow the newspapers to interview these people. Danish Islamic Society has also failed to explain, why an entire country must be denigrated all over the Middle East because of 3 drawings mailed by a single person.

As long as Danish Islamic Society have failed to properly explain, where they have obtained these images, why these images were distributed in the entire Middle East - and exactly what the Danish Islamic Society were hoping to achieve - we must assume the images belong to Danish Islamic Society.

The irony is that in doing so the Muslims have done exactly what they accuse the non-Muslims of doing: They have broken Muslim law by reproducing, publishing and distributing drawings of the prophet. And they have managed to out-blaspheme the infidel Danes by reproducing 3 blasphemous pictures that are far worse than anything ever published in JyllandsPosten.

These fake cartoons have never appeared in any Danish newspaper. They would probably be illegal. Only a lying imam, wanting to cause trouble, could think up such sick drawings.

The imams have not yet explained on their homepage,

www.wakf.com...

why they distributed these disgusting images - and what they were hoping to achieve.

I've heard similar stories of "discriminating" items planted. For instance, at universities all over the US there are planted N words and Jewish slurs that cause "diversity" to be implimented. Sounds like what that cartoons scheme was like.

What a shame that a beautiful country now has a problem with Somalis.