Originally posted by desert
reply to post by JJay55
Yes, the use of a double agent in this war is different (religious [fundamentalism], tribal/ethnic, non-state) and also doesn't need the "sophistication" as reported in the article, if by "sophistication" it is meant a person in a suit who is out to provide "state secrets" out of a sense of patriotism or financial gain, whose handlers are themselves "sophisticated".
Whereas other double agents may have given away secrets that could kill others, a double agent in an area that breeds suicide bombers can be personally tragic to handlers.
The suicide bombing on a CIA base in Afghanistan last week was carried out by a Jordanian doctor who was an al-Qaida double agent, Western intelligence officials told NBC News.
According to Western intelligence officials, the perpetrator was Humam Khalil Abu-Mulal al-Balawi, 36, an al-Qaida sympathizer from the town of Zarqa, which is also the hometown of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian militant Islamist responsible for several devastating attacks in Iraq.
Al-Balawi was arrested by Jordanian intelligence more than a year ago. However, the Jordanians believed that al-Balawi had been successfully reformed and brought over to the American and Jordanian side, setting him up as an agent and sending him off to Afghanistan and Pakistan to infiltrate al-Qaida.
His specific mission, according to officials, was to find and meet Ayman al Zawahiri, al-Qaida’s No. 2, also a physician
a Taliban spokesman who said al-Balawi misled Jordanian and U.S. intelligence services for a year. The spokesman, Al-Hajj Ya'qub, promised to release a video confirming his account of the attack.
Last week, according to the Western officials, al-Balawi reportedly called his handler to say he needed to meet with the CIA’s team based in Khost, Afghanistan, because he said he had urgent information he needed to relay about Zawahiri.
Close relations with Jordanian intelligence
His handler was a senior intelligence official, identified in Jordanian press accounts as Sharif Ali bin Zeid.
But bin Zeid was not just a Jordanian intelligence officer; he was also a member of the Jordanian royal family and was a first cousin of the king and grandnephew of the first king Abdullah.
Originally posted by makeitso
Jordanian double-agent killed CIA officers
The suicide bombing on a CIA base in Afghanistan last week was carried out by a Jordanian doctor who was an al-Qaida double agent, Western intelligence officials told NBC News.
According to Western intelligence officials, the perpetrator was Humam Khalil Abu-Mulal al-Balawi, 36, an al-Qaida sympathizer from the town of Zarqa, which is also the hometown of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, the Jordanian militant Islamist responsible for several devastating attacks in Iraq.
Al-Balawi was arrested by Jordanian intelligence more than a year ago. However, the Jordanians believed that al-Balawi had been successfully reformed and brought over to the American and Jordanian side, setting him up as an agent and sending him off to Afghanistan and Pakistan to infiltrate al-Qaida.
Originally posted by JJay55
Originally posted by desert
reply to post by JJay55
Yes, the use of a double agent in this war is different (religious [fundamentalism], tribal/ethnic, non-state) and also doesn't need the "sophistication" as reported in the article, if by "sophistication" it is meant a person in a suit who is out to provide "state secrets" out of a sense of patriotism or financial gain, whose handlers are themselves "sophisticated".
Whereas other double agents may have given away secrets that could kill others, a double agent in an area that breeds suicide bombers can be personally tragic to handlers.
Islam fights dirty. That pisses me off.
In the US we can't even waterboard or put panties on guys heads because... it's cruel.
In Islam they cut off a guys balls and let him bleed to death in the street. Hardly sophisticated.
Islam steals our planes and flies them into our buildings, that's sophisticated but dirty.
So do we stoop to their level to win? Or do we listen to the WWII dinosaurs at the Pentagon who are making huge mistakes?
He quickly rose to prominence - and eventually an adminstrator position - on the elite al-Hisba forum in 2007, and has long been widely regarded for a series of popular essays he wrote on the forums, especially on the course of the jihad in Iraq and in praise of al-Qa’ida in Iraq. In September of 2009, it was announced on the forums that Abu Dujana had joined the mujahidin in “Khurasan” (Afghanistan and western Pakistan), and the al-Qa’ida magazine “Vanguards of Khurasan” ran an interview with Abu Dujana about his jihadi career that same month in its fifteenth issue. Another famous cyber-jihadi and former Hisba admin, Ziad Abu Tariq, posted a glowing encomium to Abu Dujana soon thereafter. In October, a compilation of his essays was produced in high-quality pdf format and distributed on the forums, an extremely unusual mark of distinction for an e-jihadi with otherwise no religious or military credentials
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The Afghan Taliban, meanwhile, have issued claims that conflict with the Abu Dujana story. In press releases on the official Taliban-IEA website, as well as in their Arabic magazine al-Sumud, the Afghan Taliban have stated that the Khost suicide bomber was one Samiullah, a soldier in the Afghan National Army. Given the symbolic and instrumental significance of the attack, a variety of interested parties, including the Taliban-IEA, the TTP, al-Qa’ida and the Haqqani Network (Taliban-IENW) will perceive an advantage in laying claim to this jihadi “victory,” and we can reasonably expect further claims and counter-claims in the coming days.
America was forced by India to deal with Pakistani terrorist camps
