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reply posted on 21-1-2010 @ 08:10 AM by highlyoriginal
reply to post by regretable



I have a valid passport currently, which is still good for I think like 5 more years, and since I have no felonies I'm not really well restricted to travel (although leaving outside of any surrounding counties I'm supposed to get permission however if I'm leaving for good who the hell cares? ha).

If you don't mind check your U2U I sent you a message.


reply posted on 23-1-2010 @ 05:43 PM by highlyoriginal
reply to post by Cauch1



You make it sound much easier than it really is. I'm still young, and student loans, hospital bills etc. have really hurt me a lot. No one is going to let me go far below my balance nor give me any type of loan.

Either way, yeah I'd much rather get whatever I can out of this crap country before I leave, if I leave, but it would take a bit of ingenuity. However I know I'm very capable of doing such things, as is many others, but I guess I'll just have to wait and see what happens.


reply posted on 24-1-2010 @ 02:42 PM by Cauch1
reply to post by highlyoriginal



I didn't say it was easy I was suggesting something that could be done if you were really determined.

-Cauch1


reply posted on 25-1-2010 @ 05:29 AM by Cauch1
reply to post by paraphi



I already suggested that, its depressingly accurate isn't it. On the other hand I get the feeling this guy wants a real job and life rather than being a parasite which is probably why I got ignored when I said it .

-Cauch1


reply posted on 29-1-2010 @ 01:50 PM by highlyoriginal
Originally posted by Chuffer
Well you already have one skill that's useful, you speak English. Why not volunteer to teach English as a second language somewhere overseas, they are screaming out for people all the time. A workmate of mine is looking into this at the moment, he's sick of the UK and I might just join him as I feel the same way.

Chuffer


I have done a lot of researching into volunteering. Problem is if I do it legit, I need a visa however the volunteer programs offer the help to get one so I might be okay... however they also ask for those reports (forget the names) of your legal stuff and it includes everything from anywhere under the name I use... I guess I could get around that. Also, some places give everything free to you (house food etc.) but some you got to pay for some things. So I don't know, I'm signed up for a few right now they're waiting on my response... it doesn't help I don't have a license.

I really need a way to get my license back (I have many years before I get it back all from BS that wasn't my fault, other than the one DUI but thats 3 months I should get, it all started because of a ticket they send to a PO Box I didn't have anymore so I didn't respond... got pulled over and they said I had a suspended license, now they add a year to my suspension (I was like 17 years old and im like LOOK heres my license! see I have it still, he takes it "Not anymore")... I was thinking of going to another country and getting some sort of papers proving I'm eligible to get a license, maybe possible even just going to another state and somehow pulling it off?

Anyone know any tricks on getting a license back without buying it back (I looked into it, it's almost as much as I owe in fines) approx. $5000 to get points removed and lawyer fees too... it sucks.

I know if I got to another country and stay there I could always get a license, just say I never got one from the US and I'm looking to legally drive wherever I am, OR using my US passport say I have a legal license in the US but that would be stupid because if for some reason I got in an accident they'd look me up and figure out who I am.

I don't know how bad they'd chase me though running from parole... I mean if I run, and something happened in another country they find out who I really am, they put me into the computer database, will it come up I was on parole and ran? Would they even care? Lol, I have no idea but some answers from you guys would be nice, trust me I've looked up and spent MANY hours researching so please don't say "find out yourself" because I've tried.

[edit on 29-1-2010 by highlyoriginal]


reply posted on 9-5-2010 @ 03:10 AM by EtSolveMundi
This site has links to just about all the expat sites out there: www.transitionsabroad.com... patriatewebsites.shtml

You mentioned that you have a passport, but most countries require visas upon entry - you must apply well beforehand. As for buying a one-way plane-ticket, I'd look into also buying a one-way refundable ticket for the return trip and returning it once you're in your destination country. If you're looking to do a de facto immigration - i.e. skip the paperwork, go, and not leave - you definitely don't want to go a country that takes immigration very seriously (like the US! ), which pretty much eliminates the entire EU, Canada, and a host of other countries which will treat you like garbage if they find you (Mexico comes to mind).

If you have any time grab Rosetta Stone and learn the basics of the local language. If you become proficient you can get a certification in TOEFL/TOESL - teaching English to students in another country. It's not strictly necessary to know the other language but you're facing international competition from college grads, so it's a good idea. The job itself is supposedly lovely, and pretty much every country in the world has some demand for it. If you happen to have a female companion, au pair (nanny) jobs are popular with the expat crowd.

Speaking of which, when you pick a place, find the online forums for that country's US expat community and sign up.

Save up as much money as you can, nothing beats having a cushion to land on when you're traveling. I'd also suggest getting a world-phone or a cell-phone compatible with your destination's network. Most importantly, RESEARCH everything about your destination. Information and knowledge are your best friends.

Some nations have Right of Return laws or programs, meaning that if you can show that you belong to one of the recognized ethnicities, you'll be given assistance in immigrating. The most famous of these is probably Aaliyah, which basically guarantees people of Jewish descent citizenship in Israel if they seek it. See en.wikipedia.org.... I've considered pursuing the Polish or Ukrainian programs, but the EU isn't easy to emigrate to and it's becoming more and more socialist. In more favorable socio-econo-political circumstances, I'd be headed for Europe in a heartbeat. By the way, most of the EU is included in the Schengen Zone, which allows relatively free international travel between member nations (you do get stopped at the border and ID'd, however). It's worth considering.

Another option, which has it's own set of dangers, is becoming stateless. Some places will still allow you to renounce your U.S. citizenship without possessing any other citizenship, you are then eligible for a sort of resident-alien status. This is not a well-documented process, seeing as the UN has been working for decades to eliminate statelessness, and not without good reason - stateless persons historically tended to be refugees.


One more thing, the French Foreign Legion has been extensively reformed since the Albanian conflict. They are now very selective with applicants, can kick you out at any time during basic training for even minor things such as slow progress in learning French or lagging behind in PT, and do not grant citizenship automatically. I believe they now offer citizenship in return for about 3 or 4 years' service. It's no longer like the popular myth makes it out to be, except for the fraternity - it's still a life-long, hardcore brotherhood that affords its members special status around the world. They say a legionnaire in need can call for assistance anywhere in the world and the Legion is oath- and honor-bound to provide it. Definitely worth looking in to, if you're up to it. Additionally, there are some militaries which will accept non-citizens on certain conditions.

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In case you're wondering, becoming an expat has been a dream of mine for years. I've researched it extensively and am slowly working toward it. I encourage everyone to travel as much as possible, regardless of their reasons.

[edit on 9-5-2010 by EtSolveMundi]


reply posted on 12-5-2010 @ 09:45 AM by Cauch1
reply to post by EtSolveMundi



The Foreign Legion will still take you without proof of who you are. However you cannot get promoted above the lower ranks or get citizenship without telling them your real name and where you're from. At which point they may send you back if you are wanted in your home country.

Also as I have said before the UK has poor border security also there is quite a high immigrant population amongst the Mediterranean countries. So not all of Europe is as secure as you think.

-Cauch1
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