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Best carbine/pistol combo with interchangeable magazines?

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posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 02:19 PM
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I am looking to buy a pistol for concealed carry. At the same time I would like to purchase a carbine that will also use the same magazines.

I know there have been many threads about CC but not that address the issue I am asking about.

My preference in calibers is either 9mm or .45 (I'm aware of the Ruger PC9. unsure if they make a .45 carbine with interchangeable mags).

Does anyone here have experience with what I'm looking for? Thanks in advance for any replies.




posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 02:22 PM
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Your gonna get many ppl flooding this post with high tech stuff..
Thats fine, and good...

I just wanted to say I like my 45 LC no mags/clips involved, I also have the rifle, and an over/under deringer of the same caliber that can use either 45 LC or 410 shot shells.
I too use this gun for my CCW permit.

Peace


I do know that the "mach II" ammo looks good and preforms very well, it can be owned in pistol/rifle mag type guns, I realize you want a larger cal. but a 17 cal bullet going close to 2000+ FPS with a balistic tip can't be...not effective...IMO

[edit on 29-12-2009 by Doc Holiday]



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 02:38 PM
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given your choices I'd go with the .45
yes there one carbine ,45 that I know of without checking the books and its one of my favs the old Tommy Gun but their not cheap
Thompson 1927A-1"Commando"
For choice of pistols it dont get better than a
HK USP Tactical Pistol 704501T, 45 ACP

[edit on 29-12-2009 by DaddyBare]



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 02:41 PM
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You may want to look into the Beretta Px4/Cx4 pistol/carbine combo. The magazines are interchangeable in either 9mm or .40. Both are available in .45 individually though I am not sure if the mags are interchangeable in that caliber. I don't see why the wouldn't be interchangeable. This ability to interchange is premise of the Storm series of pistol/carbine

It has been a while since I fired the carbine but, I do remember the outstanding ergonomics and overall feel of the gun. It is also completely reversible for left handed shooters.



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 02:48 PM
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Thanks Doc, I was hoping you'd find my thread as I value your advice. What pistol do carry that uses 45LC? - One of those Thunders that also shoots .410?



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 02:50 PM
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Thanks for the links DB. HK is a tad above my price range and I've had a tommy gun before. Cuts compensator, 200 round drum and all. Fun gun but too expensive to shoot and too heavy to carry



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 02:52 PM
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That's exactly what I'm asking about Jibeho. Thanks a million!



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 02:55 PM
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If money is a issue check out Hi-point firearms just as accurate if not more than S&W or Rugers at a fraction of the price most people will say no their not but i guarantee you they are do some research on them.

You can get a new 9mm for $170 lifetime guarantee

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I own 2 of them and love them for the price and accuracy.

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[edit on 29-12-2009 by OpTiMuS_PrImE]



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 02:55 PM
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Yeah their a bit pricey but most people don't know the Tommy gun was spec'ed out so it can use any 1911 style mag... so you'd be free to pick whatever 1911 type pistol you like... as for going rates on new 1911's you'll find there all running close to $1,000



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 03:02 PM
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Just my $.02 worth.

I dont know about the thunder7. I've shot'em. They just feel kinda, well, saturday night specialish. You know?

You want something to lay you money on and be sure? Ruger blackhawk.

The benefit here is you can shoot the rifle loaded ammo in the bh.

I am not a fan of "hot" loads. I believe in shooting safe.

The BH is one helluva stout pistol. If you load the rounds to a mid level rifle spec (or what is most accurate) and check against the loading spec's that are SPECIAL to a BH, you'll be good.

I agree with Doc. either the over/under combo or a good old lever action.

Remember, check your loading bible between the two loads. Looking at mine (speer #12), the BH looks like top velocity is around 1300 with standard load under 8-900fps. A nice medium of 1100-1150 should be ok in a lever. The single can (by its nature) likely handle a bit more. Check with a smith and get his opinion. Odds are, he loads also.



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 03:05 PM
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I have a Marlin camp carbine in 45 acp that takes 1911 mags.
They quit making this model but should be available used.



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 03:06 PM
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Just a heads up but they stopped making the Ruger Deerstalker (.44 mag carbine) I still have one, well two great little gun and was a sad day when Ruger dropped it from their catalog

[edit on 29-12-2009 by DaddyBare]



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 03:07 PM
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This topic got me going and doing some Google searching.
I found a carbine in pistol caliber that seems pretty popular:
The Kel-Tec Sub 2000, can use most pistol magazines from S & W, Glock, Kel-Tec, Beretta, or Sig. The reviews seem pretty good. It increases the effective range of the pistol caliber from 50 yards for standard pistols to around 150 yards for use in the carbine.
A nice feature that really catches the eye is it's folding stock for storage and transportation.




posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 03:11 PM
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I just have a 3" derringer in a 45 LC cal.
I have a lathe, bridgeport mill, and a surface grinder, all I did was counter bore the chamber of the bottom barrel, so it would accept 2 1/2" shot shell, or you can do like a buddy of mine does and cut a shell down to 2" and put a wax or containment material on the top so it does not spill out.

My door greeeter, is a 1/2" to legal side of short sawed off shotty, that I keep both barrels loaded differnetly, left side is $4 worth of dimes the other side is 6mm ball bearings, and yes its loaded on the HOT side.
You should hear what dimes sound like at 1100FPS....vrrrrroooozzzzooomm

The chamber(45 LC), if I remember correctly is bored around 2" deep, and is too short by factory standards to accept a shorty shot shell.
The shot shell will run into the rifling.
There is a revolver, and deringer made exactly for this application nowa days, the name of this gun escapes me, someone will tell ya, I'm sure DB knows what I'm talkin about.

As far as my carry gun goes a have a 5 1/2 Uberti 45 LC and a 7 1/2 one also "see pic in avatar" the 7 incher"I dont CC with this gun" I shoot daily and I'm good out to 100 yds and regularly hit beer cans at that range with this pistol.

[edit on 29-12-2009 by Doc Holiday]



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 03:21 PM
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removed post due to being wrong.

second line

[edit on 29-12-2009 by felonius]



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 03:28 PM
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Not sure about the older ones man have no issues of neither for the ones i own over half the police force around here uses them as well never heard of any problems out of them.

Mine have yet to jam i have probably 300 to 400 rounds through them. They are also 2009 models



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 03:35 PM
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Just a FYI so take it as you will.

If your going after a 2 gun, same ammo, type situation...

You need to consider the idea of whether you intend to reload this ammo!
If you do plan on this, it would be good to keep your brass separate from one gun to the other, or get a good machinist to figure out which one is slightly larger "chambers" and match both chamber bores.
This will keep from have fire formed cases that will only work in one gun or worse yet jam your other one.

When I get my current project done I will post a pic for you.
I'm rechambering a revolver to accept 22 hornet ammo.
If the revovlver does not work as well as I want, I have an XP-100 .221 fireball that is worn out and will be a nice starter for this cal. as a rebuilt sleaved gun.
To go with my CZ rifle, in the same cal.



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 03:38 PM
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Might I ask why a .45? Yes it has power but heavy recoil and low capacity is what turns me away from that caliber. I personally carry a .40 s&w 4013tsw, 9+1.

I'm looking at a xdsc 9mm next, a 9mm can be fired much faster with better accuracy AND hold more rounds in a smaller package. I'd take accuracy, and capacity, and speed over power anyday. Just a thought.

I second the nudge towards the storm series. Berretta makes fine firearms, and I hear the px4 carbine can place a 1"group at 100yds. Not too shabby



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 03:47 PM
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There is no way I would have a Lorcin, Haskell, Raven, Davis, Hi point, or similiar auto pistols. Period.


I wouldn't lump Hi Point in with Lorcin.
1st of all, I understand Lorcin is out of business. No tears to shed there.
No one has ever said anything good about them. At least not that I ever heard.

But I have heard good things about Hi Point. The people that speak well of them are rather sheepish about it because they know the reputation of other inexpensive weapons and they know others will beat them up over liking them.



posted on Dec, 29 2009 @ 03:48 PM
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Originally posted by OneDivided
Might I ask why a .45? Yes it has power but heavy recoil and low capacity is what turns me away from that caliber. I personally carry a .40 s&w 4013tsw, 9+1.

I'm looking at a xdsc 9mm next, a 9mm can be fired much faster with better accuracy AND hold more rounds in a smaller package. I'd take accuracy, and capacity, and speed over power anyday. Just a thought.

I second the nudge towards the storm series. Berretta makes fine firearms, and I hear the px4 carbine can place a 1"group at 100yds. Not too shabby


OH CRAP! .45 VS 9MM IN THE CENTER RING! COME ONE COME ALL!


Knew this was gonna happen.
Its all about preference. I like 45's. The 40 is a nice balance between the two (lotta cops are using them). Wouldnt turn down a good deal on a 9mm.

Shot placement is the key regardless. A .22 can 86 someone if its done right.



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