Originally posted by BLV12
And if we are attacked, what makes you think the ADF can't respond?

With what? Some frigates and F111?

Maybe we can fly our elite troops in on blackhawks so they die before they even get a single boot on the ground?

The ADF is a waste of money in it's current and recent past incarnations. A nuclear deterrent would be just as good, cheaper to run and more effective if we ever get into a fight.

They should scrap the entire surface navy and replace them with subs, possibly nuclear, and get rid of the airforce and replace it with stealth only and then bury their bases underground.

We can whack up a more comprehensive missile shield than the yanks have given us. And then who could possibly ever attack? And what would they attack? Our subs and fighters they can't even see that are destroying their supply lines from hardened underground bases?



[edit on 21-4-2010 by belial259]

Originally posted by belial259

Originally posted by BLV12
And if we are attacked, what makes you think the ADF can't respond?

With what? Some frigates and F111?

Soldiers, frigates, destroyers(being built as I type), subs, FA18 Hornet/SuperHornet, F111(to be retired soon), F35(in the next 10-15 years), tanks/armoured vehicles(admittedly, not enough, although that's due to the size of the army)....

Why, what do you think other countries, or potential foes, will fight us with? Light sabers and magic?

We don't need to build a nuclear deterrent because we are part of the United States nuclear deterrent already...we are also a target as a result.

Maybe we can fly our elite troops in on blackhawks so they die before they even get a single boot on the ground?

Are people supposed to respond seriously to this?

The ADF is a waste of money in it's current and recent past incarnations. A nuclear deterrent would be just as good, cheaper to run and more effective if we ever get into a fight.

Yep. Because a nuclear bomb is going to stop enemy troops occupying Australian soil or Australian territorial waters.

They should scrap the entire surface navy and replace them with subs, possibly nuclear, and get rid of the airforce and replace it with stealth only and then bury their bases underground.

If only we lived in the fantasy world you do, where money grows on trees and logic and reality are of no relevance.

We can whack up a more comprehensive missile shield than the yanks have given us. And then who could possibly ever attack? And what would they attack? Our subs and fighters they can't even see that are destroying their supply lines from hardened underground bases?

lol. I got a good chuckle with this paragraph.

Our subs and fights they cant see? Really?
What makes you think stealth is undetectable?
What makes you think the stealth aircraft we are to receive, the F35 "export version", will be stealthy enough to evade advanced radars?
Our subs will be undetectable? See above.

Hardened underground bases? See above comment about money growing on trees.
Add to that, earth penetrating munitions.

Good luck with your virtual world of fiction.

Disregard this Post stupid thingy
It posted twice and didnt tell me
[edit on 24/4/10 by starwarp2000]

[edit on 24/4/10 by starwarp2000]

Originally posted by Chadwickus
Like I said, the second mot important reason for having and letting everyone else that you have nukes is for bluffing purposes.
[edit on 15/12/09 by Chadwickus]

Nope you are wrong. The best reason for having nukes kept secret is for purely defensive purposes.

for instance: A. "Australia does not have nukes". This causes surrounding countries to not look at us and think "shiot, we dont need nukes because no countries near us have nukes."

B: "Australia has nukes": If someone were to try and invade an australia with nukes they'd be prepared for a nuclear attack and might launch some of thier own. But if Australia is supposedly nuke free they'd try invasion first, in which case we'd simply nuke thier fleets of ships, then maybe nuke thier homeland or not?

Australia has never been nuclear free(other than smoke alarms) there are no nuclear power plants or anything like that but nuclear waste is buried in Australia

If you dont have nukes and threaten people with them,you wont get nuked?