posted on Apr, 1 2011 @ 05:14 PM
I've read the whole thread, old as it is, and I felt the need to reply in general. Sorry for the length.
What everyone should remember is that religious texts taken literally are always going to be at least partly wrong.
This is a simple matter of translation if nothing else. We do not have direct translations from the old texts to the new, not 100%. And we never will
since the language that most religious texts are written in aren't spoken today.
What you CAN take from religious texts as a sort of evidence is correlating evidence. All religions mention an enemy. All of them mention beings of
some sort from elsewhere, and all of them mention a right way and a wrong way to live. In general, religion is a good thing because it keeps people in
the right mindset morally. But if you take it too far and take it too literally, you end up with crazy people shooting others because they practice
abortion. Or are witches. Or communists. Take your pick really.
The fact is we are all scared of something. Give us any target that SEEMS plausible and we will fight back against that fear with our surrogate
The real enemy probably does exist, but consider that the term "satan" does NOT refer to a single being, but is a general term. It means simply
"enemy" or "opponent." In old hebrew satan is the prosecutor that brings forth your sins before the divine council for judgement. It does not
mention that it is one single angel.
Consider also that in many popular possession cases the phrase "we are legion" is uttered very commonly. There is more than one face of "evil" as
there is more than one face of "good."
My belief is that both good and evil are terms we attach to natural forces. Life and death, attraction and repulsion, receiving and losing. We live in
the gray area between titanic opposing forces and our language is used to make as much sense out of our environment as it can. But it is not perfect,
and thus cannot be taken literally. For example, on the front step of a bookstore I used to frequent is written, in a stone block, "Nothing is
written in stone." If I take this literally, I will go crazy, because OBVIOUSLY "nothing" is written in this stone at my feet. But, if I take it to
mean "nothing is permanent" then the inherent irony of the phrase teaches me new things. If I always assume the written word ONLY as it is written,
then I will certainly miss the meaning the writer was trying to convey. It is because our language is imperfect.
I believe it is very possible that our species is in danger. From ourselves, from outside forces, and from our past. From our very heritage. If there
are aliens and they are "doing things" to us, whatever those things may be, think of it this way. How do you think your pet fish feels when you pick
it up out of it's environment? If your son or daughter decides to leave that fish out on the carpet, how terrified and helpless do you think that
fish must feel?
Now imagine that something, be it demon, angel, alien, or what have you, takes you out of your "tank" and leaves you on it's carpet. It's a
Aliens and demons, angles and gods. They are a linguistic manifestation of our very real fear. The fear of death. The fear of the unknown. And the
fear of the only slightly known. This is NOT a baseless fear and THAT is the problem. We humans, for all our philosophical awakening over the past few
centuries, still only have one defense for this old fear and that is denial. We name it whatever we want, categorize it, and quarantine it in the
darkest recesses of our minds and learning centers. We debunk it as myth or fantasy.
We call them demons, spirits, aliens, angels, delusions... we call them whatever lets us sleep at night more soundly. Whatever secret word or phrase
will stop the golem from rampaging. But the truly horrific thing for us is the very real possibility that there is no password, no mantra or chant
that will stop whatever it is we are afraid of. Against such hopelessness what can humankind do but rationalize the insane? What else can we do but
bury our heads in the sand and move on?
I will not give undo credence to rants or delusion. That is not my point. There are people in this world with severely disturbed minds. To make them
into a sideshow of the paranormal is not only counterproductive for the rest of us but makes a mockery of their suffering. Instead I will say that we
have yet to adequately deal with this ancient fear as a people, as a society, and as a species. Whatever way you want to categorize that fear, it
exists. It is real, and someday we will need to face it or have it tear us all apart. I think if there is any solid truth to the paranormal at all it