Originally posted by watcheroftheskies
lilblam ....ive seen the divine eye of intuiton thru concentration on the infinite
And you define the eye as "divine" why? There is a sense beyond our 5 senses, there is another vision, a 3rd eye in a sense (no pun intended).
However, why ascribe the notion of divinity to this? It is simply part of our being, our eternal being, not the temporary earth-based personality and
flesh that we think is "our being". What I mean is, language is just semantics, and perhaps you use the term divine for anything ethereal, anything
that is not scientifically provable. The thing is, religions use this term differently.
....where as every thing you are perpetuating is based on your limited mind and not experience
Unlimited mind! Limited awareness yes, but mind unlimited in potential. The more knowledge I have, the more awareness I have, and there is no limit to
knowledge. When I say "mind" I don't mean the human brain, which is a physical conduit that connects my consciousness to my flesh. My consciousness
is my true mind, which is not physical.
Oh and I never said that what you claim is untrue! I only questioned the semantics you use to describe it. I never said "there is no divine eye", I
just questioned your use of the word divine, and what you mean by it. That's all
....of course youll say ....how do you know you can trust your experiences and i will say how do you know you can trust your limited intellect
Knowledge. We all have experiences of many different kinds, but our interpretation of them is based on our knowledge, is it not? Therefore, the more
you are aware of, the more you KNOW (objective reality, not personal delusions aka beliefs), the more accurately you are able to assess and understand
the experiences. Best not to assume! So "trust" has nothing to do with it as far as I see it. Objectivity is what's important. So you have an
experience that you had no previous knowledge of, and that's fine. But do you seek to objectively understand what the experience was, or do you seek
to apply your subjective desires to make this experience what you want it to be? This can be rather subtle, or it can be more extreme.
Example: The guy sees what looks like a human face in a puddle of water. Does he apply his own DESIRE for it to be God and say this? Or does he seek
to know what it is, without assumption/belief, which only deters knowledge?
......once again you have become condescending because you have let your ego believe that you are more intelligent than 99.99999% of the
No, sorry if that's how it seems. But 99.999% of the population is too busy obsessing to search for truth, and that is true any way you spin it. I'm
NOT more intelligent than many people, I simply search for truth, and that is the difference. If Einstein, with all his intelligence, did not get into
physics but went into plumbing or something, we'd not have his theories today, at least not by him. Suddenly, he would not be any different, because
chances are, there are some people who are not aware of their own potential, and choose not to explore it and find out, and therefore never
discover/understand that which they otherwise could. I CHOSE to seek what I seek, and by definition of this choice, it is different from what 99.999%
of the population CHOSE. It's not my "intellectual ability" as being better, it's my CHOICE that is different. Anyone can make the choice, but how
many actually do?
my advice to you is to work on destroying your ego.....
Well I am actually working on that! Also, I never said this makes me "better" than anyone else, because better is subjective of course. This makes
me DIFFERENT, but we are all absolutely unique, so we're all different are we not? I do not feel "above" anyone in any sense, I am simply
objectively aware that I chose to understand and seek certain things, and I have found many answers to questions that most people cannot answer yet,
because they do not seek the answer. Even if my ego doesn't exist, what I just said still doesn't necessarily change does it? If there are 100
yellow rubber duckies, and 1 blue, does the lack of ego on the part of the blue duck make him yellow? No.
This is what I mean. Please try to stay objective with me, not subjective. Now that I possess this knowledge, and continually seek more, it only makes
me more humble in terms of my daily associations. However, it does make me stick to objectivity, and this sometimes hurts another because perhaps
their ego cannot accept that someone else may know more than they do, which is invariably true for all of us anyway, someone will ALWAYS know more
If I said I had a rare disease, which made me extremely dumb, and therefore I belong to the group of humans which comprise 0.001% of the population
that have this disease. Would you then tell me to work on my ego, and not think that I'm worse than everybody else? This is the opposite example, but
can you see that your own ego doesn't react to this one as it does to the previous one, because now I place myself in a subjectively
position than the rest of humans, and that is ok
And yes, ego is something I seek to eliminate asap, hopefully you do too! It keeps you from seeing.