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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 03:27 PM by Vanitas
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I don't know if this "open letter" has been included in the previous links, but here it goes.

And it's all predominantly about the effects of SOUND, of course.

You'll find much more if you google directly for "Gariaev" (omitting the first name, as it can have different spellings) and other variants of the surname.





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reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 03:49 PM by Americanist
The Americanist



You'll find information inside those blogs (view all).



As additional reference:

Dale Pond - Keely SVP
Marko Rodin - (look for a 44pt Lecture Series) Vortex Math Model
Nassim Haramein - Vector Based Geometry



reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 03:53 PM by memarf1
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This seems like a good place to ask about something called "binaural beats". Do any of you know what those are or if they truly work the way reported? Maybe they work in the same way as the Russians Claim about DNA? I don't know about DNA, economics and physics are my fields, so this is interesting to me.


reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 04:18 PM by Americanist
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I've experimented with binaural beats at certain frequencies to stimulate brain function. You'll notice our "state of being" can be manipulated by colors and sounds. This is due to the fact our universe is a product of wave function (music/ vibration). There are no particles. What we experience as reality is compressed energy. Newton's Cradle is a perfect example of this.

I worked as a chief engineer/producer for 5 years inside a commercial recording studio. What you're asking about isn't complicated. A binaural beat is a combination of two cycles bounced between your ears to create a third (below perception value) in the mind. Our hearing is ranged from 20 to 20,000 cycles per second. Any higher or lower we don't pick up on even though we still respond to the "vibes." DNA is in the shape of a cork screw for obvious reasons. It's driven by negative force via vortices. If you look at the matter to dark matter/ dark energy ratio, you'll start to notice "We" radiate from black holes. It's the same pattern repeated over and over again. Multiple infinities on varying scale.


The math is there. The physics is there... We've just been brainwashed to steer clear of intuition.



Browse to TED.com and search for Jill Taylor. She has a very passionate explanation...


reply posted on 24-11-2009 @ 05:11 PM by drew hempel
I realize this topic of "frequency" and energy-form resonance has repeatedly been discussed on ATS so there's a few people who have thought about this issue on a deep level.

It's important to note Dr. F.A. Popp's paper on "squeezed light" in biophotons and DNA referenced above.

Squeezed light is also used for detecting gravity waves.

Squeezed light is based on the Time-Frequency Uncertainty Principle discovered by Dennis Gabor, who invented the holograph.

Squeezed light means that instead of time-energy uncertainty there is a more fundamental uncertainty in science regarding frequency and amplitude.

The concept of phase is based on measuring time with technology as a given point starting with the experiment -- it's where time is determined by space.

So it's a very very deep concept in the West to measure time as spatial distance yet in fact Pythagoras, the first to formulate the reciprocal relation of length and frequency, actually determined time by LISTENING.

So when the concept of "squeezed light" is applied to DNA and biophotons it means there's an inherent limit to the technology. The biophotons are a VERY VERY LOW INTENSITY OF LIGHT as explained below:

Anyway here's a 2 part interview with F.A. Popp about biophotons

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

There's a lot of quack biophoton machines out there now since F.A. Popp did successfully treat cancer using his biophoton multiplier machine.

But Popp treated cancer by testing the specific situation then figuring out the chemical that would fit the frequency to heal the cancer.

As Dr. Mae-Wan Ho emphasizes the "quantum jazz" DNA biophotons are self-organizing based on nonlocal information or pure consciousness.

Pure consciousness is not allowed in western science because our math, again, is based on measuring time as spatial distance. Logically we can infer pure consciousness by repeating I-I-I over and over to see the source of our thoughts.

Consciousness creates light and also spacetime itself. But the logical inference is asymmetrical while Western math is symmetrical.

So the Time-Frequency Uncertainty Principle means the more you measure frequency the less you know amplitude and vice versa -- based on the symmetrical statistics of quantum mechanics, which is noncommutative but then is translated into a differential equation which is commutative.

In nonwestern philosophy time is not defined by spatial distance -- rather time as frequency is measured through complementary opposite harmonics. This is easily demonstrated in the Law of Pythgagoras:

So in basic music theory the note C to the note G is the Perfect 5th as the ratio 2:3 while the note G to the note C is the Perfect 4th as the ratio 3:4. So that G x C does not equal G x C in violation of the commutative property.

That's the original Law of Pythagoras but Plato and Archytas translated it into equal-tempered tuning using "alogon" as geometric magnitude aka the continuum of incommensurability. In other words the major third 5/4 was approximated as the cube root of two with the major 2nd, 9/8, then 9/8 cubed was the tritone which approximates the square root of two.

So there's a direct connection between the Pythagorean Theorem for the square root of two and the Law of Pythagoras in musical harmonics.

Professor Luigi Borzacchini has a couple articles published on this topic of musical mathematical theory. He's a math professor with whom I've corresponded on this topic.

I have a blog researching these issues as well -- naturalresonancerevolution.blogspot.com...


reply posted on 25-11-2009 @ 04:52 AM by Vanitas
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All I can say is, I wouldn't trust the "expertise" of any scientist who thinks in terms like "junk DNA".
Such a person is either not bright enough to realise there are things beyond their present scope of comprehension - or is unwilling to admit it.

Neither is a promising sign.
And it certainly isn't scientific thinking.







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reply posted on 25-11-2009 @ 10:27 AM by badmedia
Originally posted by B.Morrison
Originally posted by badmedia



For example, take a list of numbers. 1,4,-3,0,4 Put it on a line, and move the dots up 1 "unit of measure" for each value. That will give you a vibration/frequency. But each point in that is really just a pattern.


Explain how on earth this makes any sense whatsoever. I've been a musician for 15yrs & studied Music (technical production) at tafe & I cannot understand what you are attempting to say here.

I honestly fail


couldn't agree more.

-B.M


No biggie, I will try to explain more, and maybe put the time in it so it makes more sense. The images and things I see in my head are a bit hard to explain.

The picture below is of a "wave". Notice the peaks and valleys of the wave.



The frequency of the wave is how often it has a peak(time). If it peaks every 1 second, it's 1 htz. But honestly, that is the point in which the pattern itself repeats. We are working with very simple and basic patterns in this example.

So, on that wave. Imagine the "points" of the wave are each "values". We will call the peak of the wave as a value of "1", and the valley of that wave as "-1". That would be the values of that wave in half second increments.

We could recreate that wave using these values. 1,-1 @ .5 second intervals graphed out and we get the wave in the picture.

So in terms of sound, that wave is it's own unique sound. If you change the values in that wave, you get another sound. Same thing as with music. Each Note on a piano or guitar will play a specific wave that gives that sound.

When we hear that sound, rather than looking at the entire wave as in the picture, we hear the individual values, and experience the time. So, the music note has that high/low/high/low sound to the note.

But realize it or not, each wave is made up of values. As such, each wave is a unique pattern or bit of information. And it is those values which would really be that which determines things.

Rather than seeing those "waves" as some kind of vibration and frequency, I see it as information and values. The above image is the most simple of waves, but they can actually be extremely more complex based on giving it more information. Not to mention the mulitple directions in which you can read that information(if you view it in 3d or higher).

So, you see the image above with the "waves", but I see it as "1,0,-1,0,1,0,-1". Values of information, and each "," = .5 seconds.

I can go into more detail on these things. But let me know if you are with me and understanding me so far.




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reply posted on 25-11-2009 @ 08:13 PM by badmedia
reply to post by JayinAR



Well, as I was saying before, the "Frequencies" and such are really just values. I don't doubt that you can change those values, aka frequency/properties of the wave and get a change reflected.

It's when people start talking about "changing their frequency" that I become skeptical.


reply posted on 25-11-2009 @ 08:31 PM by JayinAR
reply to post by badmedia



I understand the skepticism as you have laid it out.
I was speaking more of the others who scream that the entire article is bunk.

I mean, perhaps they are correct, but it was my understanding that Science and "new age hippy mumbo jumbo" were coming towards a common denominator in these regards. Especially considering the examples I gave in my previous post.

I mean, I'm not so sure that something like this could be accomplished purely internally (although I certainly wouldn't dismiss the possibility outright. there have been a lot of folks who were seemingly able to undergo dramatic transformations through meditation. ie, monks who could RV / astral project with amazing clarity), but I would suggest that this sort of thing is entirely within grasp via technology.

Binural beat type technology would be just one way, imo.

Google brainwave generator for a program I have used off and on for years now that I will personally attest to having tremendous potential.

I think someone else put forward a pretty good explanation of what binural beats are. I didn't realize that all binural beats were otherwise imperceivable to the mind though. I thought that binural beats were just an averaging of two frequencies to create the third through stereo effect.

For instance, left ear - 300mhz, right ear - 100mhz, binural - 200mhz... which may or may not be perceivable... anyhow, however it works, it is powerful indeed.

For those who haven't played with it, I would highly recommend giving it a shot. They have preset "songs" that strive to create programmed results.
They have songs for studying, self hypnosis, sleep from awake, etc...

And they work.
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