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Ft. Hood Shooter Tried To Contact Al-Qaeda

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posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 12:07 PM
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I'm a muslim. And I do feel that western world has taken bad impressions about us muslims. We have bad and good muslims like most of christians.. and buddhists... and hindus... and most of all human. Arab muslims are different. They wear veils and they drink beer.
BTW, al-qaeda and CIA are connected. Why don't you ask them CIA. They know better.




posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 12:11 PM
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Sounds like the hate train stopped at your house as well. Lot's of killing is done in the name of Jesus and The Christian God. What makes this any different?



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 12:12 PM
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Originally posted by TheAgentNineteen


First off, this should finally put the "Islamic Extremist?" question to rest. Many of us on here have known and arrived at the aforementioned conclusion through basic knowledge and analysis, but others have remained extremely skeptical, or quite possibly naive in regards to such. Hopefully this will help to confirm the reality of this attack for those of you who find yourself in the latter categories.

Second, the same Imam from the radical Dar Al-Hijrah mosque who we all examined in a previous thread on ATS, is back in the mix already praising Hassan and his actions.

In conclusion, I believe that we can now say without much of any doubt whatsoever, that the Ft. Hood attack was an act of Terrorism, and that it was also along the same line of Islamic Extremism which lead to 9/11, and any number of other attacks upon the United States and its allies over the past 30+ years.

abcnews.go.com
(visit the link for the full news article)


I am glad you bought all of this BS from the clearly honest sources. IMHO I think this person is being used as a scapegoat for something that happened. Perhaps, to bolster support for this war? Wow so, they knew he was trying to contact the ficticious group calles Al Qaeda, yet he was still active in service.. BS!! This whole story stinks to high heaven. There were 3 shooters,,, wait no it was 1. The shooter is dead...no he is alive.

C'mon, you actually believe the spew that comes out of our Fed government and the MSM? Just like a bunch of terrorists crashed into the towers..

One of 2 things happened here .. The guy simply went nuts and started shooting people.. I am not sold on this one.

Perhaps he was being setup to take the fall for something and decided to protect himself? Possibly, but not sold on that one either.

The amount of propganda about this whole situation just doesnt feel right.
The fact that we were unsure on the number of shooters, unsure if he was dead or alive.
THe statement that he was part of some homeland security exercise and planning.
The statement that he yelled alah akhbar (spelling)..
Now we hear that he was trying to conatct Al Queda..

Whewm they are trying very very hard to paint him as a terrorist. Ask yourself WHY???
I was fine with the story that a guy snapped and went on a shooting spree, but now with all this information coming out to paint him as a terrorist..well I don't buy it.



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by my_republic
reply to post by JJay55
 


I'm a muslim. And I do feel that western world has taken bad impressions about us muslims. We have bad and good muslims like most of christians.. and buddhists... and hindus... and most of all human. Arab muslims are different. They wear veils and they drink beer.
BTW, al-qaeda and CIA are connected. Why don't you ask them CIA. They know better.


Couldnt have said it better myself. As soon as westerners hear Muslim they think terrorist. Yet there are alot of nutjob christian fundamentalists out there and when someone says the person is a christian we do not thing of them as terrorists do we? And indeed Al Quaeda is a CIA sponsored group. What better way to keep the very very profitable war machine going than to supply the enemy with weapons.



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 12:34 PM
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Originally posted by JJay55

Originally posted by Genus
Hah, I knew they were going to throw the "Al Qaeda" card as soon as I heard the guys name, took them a little bit this time though.

I don't know though, something tells me this guy might just be a scapegoat for something someone else did. With the CIA and MSM jumping on it quick, and knowing the track record of both lying, I tend to take them as just a "little" untrustworthy as to this situation. Kinda seems like an excuse to keep pushing "The War on Terror."

Yeah because a poor innocent peaceful muslim couldn't possibly have done this. Poor innocent muslims, they are the victims of America and we shouldn't bother them. Awwwwww.


I could also say AWWWWW Poor innocent Americans, they are victims of Muslim's and shouldnt bother them.

Im sorry, who is currently occupying the other's country???
We should be weary of them christian's as well I suppose. Considering the acts of terrorism commited by that particular group on a daily basis in our own country.
Do not paint an entire religion and people black because of the actions of a few.



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 12:37 PM
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Originally posted by Credge
We'll find out his intentions soon enough.

www.myfoxtwincities.com...

He's awake and talking.


Yeah , but who is he talking to? We will never hear from this person again.
I wouldn't be surprised if he "takes a turn for the worse" or be shipped off to Gitmo where he will never be heard from again.

I want to see this go to trial, but the only trial it will see is a military tribunal where the general public have no access.



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 12:44 PM
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Will people blame terrorism when an American soldier, suffering post-traumatic stress from numerous deployments in Iraq, comes back home and goes on a killing spree?

It will happen, it's just a matter of time.




posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by Credge
We'll find out his intentions soon enough.

www.myfoxtwincities.com...

He's awake and talking.


I'll bet my last dollar that he plays the "I can't remember anything" card



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 01:03 PM
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Originally posted by Better Mouse Trap
Will people blame terrorism when an American soldier, suffering post-traumatic stress from numerous deployments in Iraq, comes back home and goes on a killing spree?

It will happen, it's just a matter of time.


We have a safety net for things like this. With muslims they get offended if you say they can't practice their religion and free speech...



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by Snarf

Originally posted by Credge
We'll find out his intentions soon enough.

www.myfoxtwincities.com...

He's awake and talking.


I'll bet my last dollar that he plays the "I can't remember anything" card

Kalid Shiek Mohammed, Mousoui and others do not pull the "can't remember" in court. Instead they use the courts to preach about Islam and that they were justified in what they did because America is evil and Islam is superior. You can look up the transcripts.

Again, there is no mystery about this. Muslims admit their actions yet Americans still deny and think they are victims.

[edit on 9-11-2009 by JJay55]



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 01:08 PM
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Originally posted by nepafogo
I could also say AWWWWW Poor innocent Americans, they are victims of Muslim's and shouldnt bother them.

Im sorry, who is currently occupying the other's country???
We should be weary of them christian's as well I suppose. Considering the acts of terrorism commited by that particular group on a daily basis in our own country.
Do not paint an entire religion and people black because of the actions of a few.

So because we are in their country it gives them the right to kill innocent civilians here? Yes, you are correct it's called fard ayn and it's an Islamic policy.
Unfortunately Sharia Law does not apply in the US and they must follow our law which says you cannot go shoot people.

This is an entire religion, this is a 24/7 government sponsored religion that wants to kill non-muslims. You can deny that all you want, it's still a fact.



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 01:09 PM
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Originally posted by NotAnumber
reply to post by JJay55
 


Sounds like the hate train stopped at your house as well. Lot's of killing is done in the name of Jesus and The Christian God. What makes this any different?

Not since I've been alive.
Not nice of you to make false accusations of hate if you don't even know me. It's not about hate, this is about Islamic law.



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 01:24 PM
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Go elsewhere with your strawmen , the reason any sane , informed person would think terrorist is because of the turbulent history of islamic jihad's attempt to conquer europe and the world , read the koran , sunna and hadiths for yourself and read the history of islamic conquests.Yes not all muslims are bad but when they take shariah law and jihad seriously problems arise.

The christian faith already takes a gutting here in the west , ironically the same west they helped build , a fundamentalist terrorist is a fundamentalist terrorist regardless of which religion they tote , your'e not saying we should punish one group and ease another are you?

The other strawman is CIA funding al qaeda , even if it is true , that still does not make al qaeda the good guy as they are taking money to commit murder , they could easily have not have taken the dinero and not have killed , but hey they do what they like.

Nadir was born and raised in the U.S , his parents were from palestine , was a soldier that rose to the ranks of major , mind you. I thought the U.S was in iraq and afghanistan. How did the U.S occupy his country , THE US.

So let me get this straight , you occupy two muslim countries out of 57 give or take and all of a sudden you are oppressing all muslims , even the ones born in non muslim countries , even your own? And that gives them the right to become terrorists and attack you by surprise whenever? And you're saying this is right.....hmmmm.




posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 01:38 PM
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Originally posted by illuminatislave

Originally posted by JJay55

LOL. Apparently you haven't experienced government disconnect personally. Maybe you can recall Katrina.


That wasn't incompetence, that was the Bush Administration not giving a damn about a bunch of poor folk being left to die.



I have to - once again - call BS on blaming the Bush administration for Katrina. Why (again)?

1- it takes FEMA at least 3 days to respond to ANY emergency, and that's how long it took. Meanwhile, able-bodied people just sat in New Orleans waiting for the government to take care of them.
2 - in the midwest floods, more damage was done and more people lost their lives, the difference? The people in the midwest took charge of their own issues and didn't wait for the government to save them. Some INDIVIDUALS after the floods even turned down federal assistance in favor of doing it on their own.
3 - New Orlean's mayor and Louisiana's governor (both dems) turned down federal assistance offers BEFORE the hurricane hit, which further delayed responses.

So, I think it's fair to blame the government on the Ft. Hood incident all you want for not paying attention to what was going on leading up to the shooting, but enough of this blaming Bush for Katrina. You have to remember that when Katrina happened, people were just wanting to blame Bush for anything and everything that happened - factually, or not.



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 01:42 PM
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Originally posted by Better Mouse Trap
Will people blame terrorism when an American soldier, suffering post-traumatic stress from numerous deployments in Iraq, comes back home and goes on a killing spree?

It will happen, it's just a matter of time.



But this radical muslim NEVER went to iraq, or afghanistan, so his murderous rampage can't be blamed on PTSD. That just leaves his muslim faith and - as it is turning out - the radical imam from the mosque he used to attend near Washington DC.



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 01:48 PM
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Originally posted by my_republic
reply to post by JJay55
 


I'm a muslim. And I do feel that western world has taken bad impressions about us muslims.


How could that have happened? Maybe it's that your faith is the one always plastered all over the news as "involved" terrorist incident and/or war around the world.


We have bad and good muslims like most of christians.. and buddhists... and hindus... and most of all human.


But IF anyone from any of those other more peaceful religions is involved in something, it is a local issue, not worldwide.


Arab muslims are different. They wear veils and they drink beer.


And watch porno and they kill innocent people in the name of their religion ...


BTW, al-qaeda and CIA are connected. Why don't you ask them CIA. They know better.


Perhaps, but just how would you know?

[edit on 11/9/2009 by centurion1211]



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 03:34 PM
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Originally posted by my_republic
reply to post by JJay55
 


I'm a muslim. And I do feel that western world has taken bad impressions about us muslims. We have bad and good muslims like most of christians.. and buddhists... and hindus... and most of all human. Arab muslims are different. They wear veils and they drink beer.
BTW, al-qaeda and CIA are connected. Why don't you ask them CIA. They know better.

Maybe you should understand that the western world has not taken bad impressions of muslims. And what can you do to help with those muslims who spew hate and commit violence?

AQ and the CIA are not connected. That's a myth too.

I've worked in programs to educate muslims about the West. Would you say that muslims are resistant to this?



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by centurion1211

Originally posted by Better Mouse Trap
Will people blame terrorism when an American soldier, suffering post-traumatic stress from numerous deployments in Iraq, comes back home and goes on a killing spree?

It will happen, it's just a matter of time.



But this radical muslim NEVER went to iraq, or afghanistan, so his murderous rampage can't be blamed on PTSD. That just leaves his muslim faith and - as it is turning out - the radical imam from the mosque he used to attend near Washington DC.

Oh yeah another isolated incident. Can you explain all the others?



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 04:59 PM
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The only thing I have to say about this entire incident is that I am withholding ANY and ALL judgement as to who did this and why because the media has FROM THE VERY START OF THIS STORY given us inconsistent information.

This is ATS. Most of us are here because we don't buy the official story 90% of the time (I just made that statistic up in my head...sounds right to me though
). Yet, here we are on ATS and it seems a lot of people are using MSM information to form conclusions about what happened.

First the guy was dead. Now he's alive. Then there were 1, 3, then four shooters. Now it's just him.

This guy could definitely have been an Islamic extremist carrying out a terrorist attack on America soil.

He could also very well be a patsy for something far more nefarious.

But I'll tell you one thing. I will not form any opinion based on information given to me by the government controlled media.

edit: I had incorrect information

[edit on 9-11-2009 by nunya13]



posted on Nov, 9 2009 @ 05:15 PM
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People that say "Don't sentence him to death are FOOLS." Almost like back in the day when the insanity clause came out.People said "O, these people are insane, it isn't right to kill THEM" ... Then you have everyone pleading the insanity clause and going and getting three meals a day and playing with thier little puzzles in thier padded room. Eating thier pills that people pay 20.00 a peice on the street for just to try and forget they gotta go to work tomorrow. If you have ever grown up sleeping on the ground eating SPAM you realize how rediculous this is. Just straight out silly. WHY DID THEY EVEN hesitate, why did we bring this person back to life !?!?! We as a NATION just spent more than a CENT keeping this guy alive, we should have left him LYING there as a reminder to every person that comes into that FORT... Seriously spend 50k keeping this fool alive to execute him ... WE ARE IDIOTS !!!!??!! And here all of you are saying o, don't kill him give him to the MEDIA ... *DENYING IGNORANCE HAS NEVER BEEN SO HARD FOR ME* !!!! SO BLINDED !!!!! I hope this post gets deleted just to show me how right I AM. SERIOUSLY.




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