Why did the Catholics change the ten commandments ?, page 6

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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"Prophet of Above Top Secret"? Hmmm, I don't recall that being in the Word of God.

I do however recall that a 'prophet of God' being spoken of very often in the Word of God. And someone claiming to have a prophecy from the Lord had to pass a LITMUS test... 100% accuracy.

I have never once claimed to be a prophet, nor have I ever claimed the Lord has given me a prophetic revelation.

Ellen G. White on the other hand can't say the same, she claimed to be a prophet of God, and made over 100 prophecies which failed to come to pass.

She is a false prophet, and thank God we are under the covenant of grace or her false prophet behind would have been taken out of the church and stoned to death. She was a charlatan, a liar, a plagiarist, and a false prophet. A "wolf in sheep's clothing", teaching the "doctrines of men".

If I were you I'd leave the church as fast as I possibly could. But don't sit there and lie through your teeth and say that I have declared to be a prophet or declared that I had a prophetic revelation from God. You're a liar, I have never claimed such.

I challenge you to provide evidence of my doing so, if you cannot you need to recant that lie.

Here's one:

. . .Gog/Magog war comes before the Tribulation,. . .

just as an example, making statements about future events, looks like a prophecy, to me.
If Mrs. White claimed to be a prophet, you should be able to produce a quote.

Originally posted by spinalremain
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Your version of what God wants is no more exeptional or valid than mine. It is no more valid than anyone's. Even the guy you called a false prophet.
You should accept what you hold true, and be you. What you should not do is preach the word of God as if your way is the right way. We all have the ability to read and understand what you've been taught, and at this stage of the game if we don't think that way then we don't need you to correct us plz. Thank you.

I am not correcting you or notyourtypical unless I am first challenged on mine. I don't think it is right for these two people having a little party on this thread enjoying denigrating 17 million people who happen to belong to the seventh-day Adventist church.

[edit on 9-11-2009 by jmdewey60]

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Is your creepy avatar supposed to be a Jesus type guy or Charles Manson? I'm just curious. And what's with the ball of light? Is your Messiah getting ready to "HADOKEN!" someone?

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That's not a prophecy JM, repeating whet Daniel and John said is simply that, teaching. Daniel and John were the prophets.

I'm no prophet nor have I ever in my life claimed to be. God has never given me special revelation to share with the world.

Originally posted by jmdewey60

Originally posted by spinalremain
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Your version of what God wants is no more exeptional or valid than mine. It is no more valid than anyone's. Even the guy you called a false prophet.
You should accept what you hold true, and be you. What you should not do is preach the word of God as if your way is the right way. We all have the ability to read and understand what you've been taught, and at this stage of the game if we don't think that way then we don't need you to correct us plz. Thank you.

I am not correcting you or notyourtypical unless I am first challenged on mine. I don't think it is right for these two people having a little party on this thread enjoying denigrating 17 million people who happen to belong to the seventh-day Adventist church.

Appeal to numbers.

We are to rightly divide the Word, and doctrines, to constantly study to show ourselves approved, and to bring false teaching to the light of day.

It's what were are instructed to do.

"Iron sharpens iron" my friend.

We are told to remove ourselves from churches or teachers who teach false doctrines or who are false prophets, says so right in the Word. I left a Reformed Presbyterian church that even my family attends because of false doctrine. I do the exact same thing myself in my Christian faith.

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"Silencing Heretics" = calling to light false doctrines and false prophets

I would expect someone who holds himself as judge over the prophets, would have some sort of spiritual insight, himself.
Especially one who can make that judgment without any actual evidence or even reading the writings of the one being condemned. That person would have to be a prophet of the highest order, I would think.

You should do a thorough study of the history of Sunday laws in the United States. You would find out that they have been upheld by the Supreme Court, twice. The US recognises Sunday as "The Christian Sabbath". That did not happen because of a few "heretics". It happened because the Christians of this country believed that the keeping of the Sabbath was mandatory for all Christians, as part of the Ten Commandments. That's a fact. What Mrs. White and a lot of other people realized was that, according to the Bible, the actual Sabbath was on the seventh day of the week, not the first, as they had been taught at church. In order to worship on God's day, they found out that they needed to have their own church. So, big heretic, eh? I don't think so. If the SDA's happen to be the only church left standing who believe in the Ten Commandments, then who are the heretics?




[edit on 9-11-2009 by jmdewey60]

Originally posted by spinalremain
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Is your creepy avatar supposed to be a Jesus type guy or Charles Manson? I'm just curious. And what's with the ball of light? Is your Messiah getting ready to "HADOKEN!" someone?

Jesus, and not a jesus-type guy. Jesus is the light of the world and he is so by sharing that light with men who can take it into their hearts. God wants us to be good and live, not evil and perish from the world, never to return. With the spirit of Jesus, we can be good people and acceptable to God, and have everlasting life.

[edit on 9-11-2009 by jmdewey60]

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Okay bro, prophets condemn themselves by their own words. Ellen g. White stated she was a messenger of God, her book "The Great Conspiracy" is a great plagiarism from J.N. Andrews work. I have already provided numerous web pages where the two are contrasted side by side and you can plainly see that she copied his material.

That's PLAGIARISM. And her "prophecies" are written on paper as well, there are over a hundred that failed to materialize, if even one failed to come to pass she is a false prophet, I suppose over a hundred doesn't matter??

Like I said numerous times, I could care less what day of the week you gather for worship, I'm not a judge of Sabbaths, I let every man honor any day he wants if he is honoring it to the Lord. I take exception with folks who try and Judaize Christians and say we must worship on a certain day, that's exactly the issue Paul addressed in Galatians.

I worship God EVERY day in Spirit, I just choose to gather with other Christians on Sundays for fellowship. if you want to gather on Saturday, I don't care, you have the freedom to do so under the covenant of grace.

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Hey wait a minute dude, who said I didn't believe in the 10 Commandments????

I understand fully that if I love my neighbor as myself I keep ALL the commandments:

"For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself." Galatians 5:14

"This is my commandment, That ye love one another, as I have loved you." John 15:12

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Okay bro, prophets condemn themselves by their own words. Ellen g. White stated she was a messenger of God,. . .

Maybe you should change your title on your mini-profile to, "I am not a messenger of God" just to make sure no one mistakes you for a prophet.

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That was a very nice explanation of Jesus with the light. Thanx

Originally posted by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest
catholics preceeded protestants (they left the catholic church in protest of what it was doing)

unless The Church changed the commandments after the protestant reformation, it was the protestants who changed the commandment.

im guessing they changed it to fit the jewish ten commandments better. judaism is where it all started anyways.


[edit on 5-11-2009 by ELECTRICkoolaidZOMBIEtest]

You are right. You are guessing.

The book we call "Exodus" or the "Second Book of Moses" (depending on your tradition) was originally written in Hebrew. Seventy Jews in Alexandria, Egypt translated what we call the Old Testament into Greek (this translation was called the Septuagint for the 70 translators). The Septuagint was used for the translation into Latin. The Latin version was used by the Catholics for their English translations, whereas the Protestant translation used the Greek for their English translations. The Catholic translations into English came after the Protestant translations.

An argument can be made that the initial Catholic translations into English were made after their theology was settled whereas the initial Protestant translations were made about the time their theology was being debated.

IF your theology and your Bible don't line up, what do you do? Create a conspiracy theory!

[edit on 9-11-2009 by CharlesMartel]

Originally posted by jmdewey60

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Okay bro, prophets condemn themselves by their own words. Ellen g. White stated she was a messenger of God,. . .

Maybe you should change your title on your mini-profile to, "I am not a messenger of God" just to make sure no one mistakes you for a prophet.

It's IMPOSSIBLE for someone to mistake me for a prophet, I have never claimed to be one or claimed to have a prophetic revelation.

You're grasping at straws dude.

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