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reply posted on 2-11-2009 @ 11:04 PM by mike dangerously
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Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
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Does it really matter who wins in the end? Dem or Republican it really makes no difference in the end.The game is fixed and we all pay the price.
What matters is that the same party doesn't control the Presidency, the House and the Senate. A deadlocked government means that they can't do much.
That's the best we can hope for right now. That's nothing and everyone here knows it.If that's the best we can hope for then it really is
over for the nation and it's time to drop the left/right charade.
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 07:03 AM by vor78
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Yep, the only way that Christie will win is if its outside the margin of fraud. If the final polls today show Christie with a 1-2% lead, the
lawsuits will follow, ballot boxes will be found stuffed in some Democratic operative's car, and Corzine will end up winning by a few thousand
votes. Happens every time.
At least its not in Philadelphia, where 110% of the registered voters go to the polls every time.
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 07:49 AM by illuminatislave
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I am from NJ and I am at a loss over who to vote for, I am leaning towards voting for Daggett. I refuse to vote for the corrupt democratic party here
in this state because they are the reason NJ has become almost unbearable to live in, and Christie is nothing more than a crook himself.
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 07:55 AM by ProfEmeritus
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I am from NJ and I am at a loss over who to vote for, I am leaning towards voting for Daggett. I refuse to vote for the corrupt democratic party here
in this state because they are the reason NJ has become almost unbearable to live in, and Christie is nothing more than a crook himself.
I understand your dilemma, but ultimately, a vote for Daggett is a vote for Corzine. I don't live in NJ, but if I did, I'd probably hold my nose and
vote for Christie, because he's not the incumbent, and the incumbent in any position has had too much time in office developing corrupt connections.
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 07:38 PM by Eurisko2012
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Well, we're moving forward.
Virginia is done. Republicans won.
R- Governor
R- Lt. Governor
R- Attorney General
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 08:02 PM by vor78
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It wasn't just the wins in that state, it was the margin of victory. The Democrats took an absolute beating in Virginia. The GOP is leading all
three races by at least 18% with 80% of the precincts reporting. I haven't seen the legislature numbers, but some have said the Republicans could
win as many as 12 seats there as well.
On to New Jersey. So far, I'm even more cautiously optimistic than I was. Independents are reportedly breaking almost 2-1 for Christie in this
race, but with so many registered Dems in the state, its still going to be a close race.
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 08:06 PM by Bicent76
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I have no faith in either party...
Lobbyism has taken the fight out of the for the people...
Before you ask I dunno what we the people can do.. Pray perhaps...  In theory we will see some balance I suppose..
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 09:02 PM by vor78
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Republican Department Head Deborah Pahler tells 7 News the scanners malfunctioned on the new election machines in the towns of Clare, Edwards and
Rossie and possibly in Louisville, Waddington and the Potsdam Civic Center.
Voting Machine malfunctions in NY-23
Well, here we go. I'm hearing elsewhere that these may not be counted until tomorrow, so we may not know the results there for a while.
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 09:18 PM by vor78
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Time for another update: The AP has called the race in New Jersey for the Republican Christie. Myself, I think its still just a bit early to call
it, but the paths to victory for Corzine are definitely drying up quickly, down by roughly 90,000 votes and with ~79% of the precincts in.
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 09:22 PM by Eurisko2012
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It looks like we got another one.
I was right.
Christie won +5 !
How about that?
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May have to wait until tomorrow morning to see the Hoffman victory
for NY 23.
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 09:23 PM by Mak Manto
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Damn Hoffman winning...
This guy is against gay marriage and abortions! He's a social conservative!
Wow, this country is falling into a hole...
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 09:24 PM by eNumbra
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 09:26 PM by vor78
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Yep. Looks like Christie is going to win this by margin large enough to prevent the usual garbage from the other side.
Here's hoping that Hoffman can win in NY-23 (and you're right, we probably won't know that one until tomorrow morning), but I thought that the
two governorships were the big ones, especially Virginia being a supposed swing state. The Dems have now lost two governorships with a net 20%+
shift vs Obama's '08 margin in BOTH states.
BTW...the one we might know tonight is the race in California. I don't really expect a GOP win, but in a heavily Democrat district, if they
can keep it in the single digits, it would be a very troublesome result for the Democrats in that state as well.
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 09:30 PM by ProfEmeritus
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This guy is against gay marriage and abortions! He's a social conservative! Wow, this country is falling into a hole...
Actually, I look at it quite differently. Perhaps there is still hope for this country. Murdering babies and supporting un-natural unions, contrary to
the laws of nature, God, and civilized behavior, are hardly traits that better America.
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 09:34 PM by Mak Manto
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Originally posted by ProfEmeritus
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This guy is against gay marriage and abortions! He's a social conservative! Wow, this country is falling into a hole...
Actually, I look at it quite differently. Perhaps there is still hope for this country. Murdering babies and supporting un-natural unions, contrary to
the laws of nature, God, and civilized behavior, are hardly traits that better America.
Last time I check, Emeritus, this country doesn't follow any religion... I don't see Christianity as the official religion, do you?
God, honestly, how can you look at yourself in the mirror everyday when you go to yourself that you believe that people should have freedom in this
country, but you want them to follow your views on religion...
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 09:34 PM by XTexan
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Just as I suspected... I knew that if a Democrat or a Republican won any of those elections then nothing will change...
To Democrats, if any of your candidates won: Congratulations, your party will continue to destroy this country, run it into the ground, and not care
about us citizens.
To Republicans, if any of your candidates won: Congratulations, your party will continue to destroy this country, run it into the ground, and not care
about us citizens.
Democrats
Republicans
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 09:35 PM by Eurisko2012
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I can hear them in the White House right now!
Uh......how do we spin this?
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I can hear the blue dog dems running away from PelosiCare!
Coming through!.................Make a hole!......Get out of the way!
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 09:35 PM by Mak Manto
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HONESTLY, maybe it's me, but when we cherish our country for the freedoms it offer, you want freedoms limited on who can marry! You want freedoms on
what one can do to their body.
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 09:36 PM by Mak Manto
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Originally posted by XTexan
Just as I suspected... I knew that if a Democrat or a Republican won any of those elections then nothing will change...
To Democrats, if any of your candidates won: Congratulations, your party will continue to destroy this country, run it into the ground, and not care
about us citizens.
To Republicans, if any of your candidates won: Congratulations, your party will continue to destroy this country, run it into the ground, and not care
about us citizens.
Democrats
Republicans
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YES!
We need RON PAUL!
He'll save the country! Let's get Ron Paul as President! Come on, ATS! Let's do it! Ron Paul for 2012!
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reply posted on 3-11-2009 @ 09:37 PM by vor78
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You misunderstand. I'm not overly thrilled with the GOP, but if the GOP can stomp on the Democrats tonight, it severely damages the ability of
the Obama administration to keep the 'blue dog' Democrats on board with his agenda. If they jump ship over this, his agenda falls apart, nothing
gets passed, and we're all a hell of a lot better off.
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