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Originally posted by OldDragger
reply to post by Eurisko2012
OH MY GOD! Voluntary counseling regarding end of life decisions!
Obama is a monster!
Wait, i typed that wrong.
Let's see...
Palin is an idiot! FOX lies for a living!
There that's what I meant.
An advisor will be paid by the government to visit you
and convince you to save the government money and just die
sooner rather than later
The provision allows Medicare to pay for voluntary counseling to help beneficiaries deal with the complex and painful decisions families face when a loved one is approaching death.
Originally posted by damwel
It was invented by desperate republicans to scare old people.
You would think that if Republicans wanted to totally mischaracterize a health care provision and demagogue it like nobody's business, they would at least pick something that the vast majority of them hadn't already voted for just a few years earlier. Because that's not just shameless, it's stupid.
Yes, that's right. Remember the 2003 Medicare prescription drug bill, the one that passed with the votes of 204 GOP House members and 42 GOP Senators? Anyone want to guess what it provided funding for? Did you say counseling for end-of-life issues and care? Ding ding ding!!
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John Boehner, the first GOP leader to raise the specter of "government-encouraged euthanasia," also voted for the '03 bill.
Originally posted by Eurisko2012
We can make our own decisions WITHOUT the government
sticking their nose in our hospital rooms.
This is creepy!
We can make our own decisions WITHOUT the government sticking their nose in our hospital rooms. This is creepy!
Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
There comes a time for certain patients when they KNOW they are going to die, when the doctors KNOW they are going to die, when it's just a matter of time. End of life counseling at that point should be given, for the patient and the family.
There comes a time for certain patients when they KNOW they are going to die, when the doctors KNOW they are going to die, when it's just a matter of time.
Originally posted by Rhetoric
We can make our own decisions WITHOUT the government sticking their nose in our hospital rooms. This is creepy!
Can't we make our own decisions without Sarah Palin sticking her nose in our hospital rooms. Now, THAT is creepy!
What a foolish attempt to twist the meaning of this thread. Palin wants government out of the decision. She wants only you and your family involved.
The government involvement consists of paying for the counseling, it has no part in the counseling itself, NONE.
Naive, naive, naive. Take one minute and ask yourself WHY the government wants a role in this. For no reason whatsoever? Are they just being altruistic? No, it's in the healthcare bill for a reason, and that reason is to help the government save money by trying to coax people into dying instead of needed expensive care. This is really soooo simple to understand ...
Also, this "death panel" has been a part of Medicare for EVER, in fact, it was a Republican amendment to Medicare.
scare tactics
Scare tactics? Wait until it is you or your spouse that the death panel wants to interview next ...