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Originally posted by EnlightenUp
Originally posted by Deaf Alien
If for one moment the mystery is solved, everything would collapse into nothingness. What fun is that?
Believe it or not, I've considered this potential "hazard" as well and find it motivating. First one there is a...well, it won't matter.
Originally posted by unityemissions
I often think about things at the atomic and cellular level, to get a broad perspective of who I am. If everything is consciousness, then all levels have some bit of awareness. An atom is conscious enough to serve it's function and contribute to something greater than it can comprehend. This holds true for the cell, tissue, organ, system, and so why not expand all the way out passed a human being? Why would it just stop with us?
Is it that we have enough awareness to simply perform our functions as human beings? Are we part of a greater entity which we can't begin to comprehend? Much like a cell, or atom?
By the way...I have no beliefs. Those are concepts. I enjoy the floundering solace of not knowing anything. Back into the void from whence I came. Full and Empty at the same time.
Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by redwoodjedi
Actually no anger. Disrespect perhaps but I have the annoying tendency to speak my mind. But neither was intended. I think perhaps your are projecting here. It was a discriptive term for those that would gladly give up their individuality and in fact welcome it. No individuality = hive mind = drone, the progression is simple and without emotionality on my part. If it bothers you, well, as passive aggressive as this may sound, there is nothing I can do about that.
Also, it's worth noting that there is a certain hubris in declaring oneself's "enlightened" or hinting to it without using the word as you do. And, I find it rather dishonest *perhaps even to yourself* to in one moment claim to know something then in another part to claim that you do not while still claiming that you do. Which is what you did with this little line:
By the way...I have no beliefs. Those are concepts. I enjoy the floundering solace of not knowing anything. Back into the void from whence I came. Full and Empty at the same time.
We all have beliefs *what we call truth or the nature of our reality*, to attempt to pass yours off as a non-belief and thusly truth is MASSIVELY dishonest.
That being said, believe what you wish. Just don't expect me to agree with you.
[edit on 19-10-2009 by Watcher-In-The-Shadows]
Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by redwoodjedi
Yet, once again. Here you are commenting on what you percieve to be fact. All the while admiting that it's unknownable. To say that you know that we are truly are "all one" is to make a claim no matter how you qualify it. And it is made annoying *mildly* when you speak down to me and tell me that I do not know what I am talking about as to the nature of existance with your unspoken, "You haven't done what I have done so thusly you know nothing.".
Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by redwoodjedi
Hm, I think the problem I percieved is semantic and mostly based with me, perhaps, benefit of the doubt should always be rendered when dealing with others IMHO. And as for the drone stuff, well, it still fits in the context of the simularities between collectivism and the Star Trek race known as the borg.
Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by redwoodjedi
That is largely where we divurge. I do not believe forsaking one's individualism is a necessary or even a very good thing. But in the end like most everything I think it comes down to choice, some choose to return to source, I do not. And I know the arguments for individualism being an illusionary and mostly *not always* bad thing though and simply disagree.
Originally posted by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
reply to post by redwoodjedi
From a certain point of view..... You are correct. Excuse the tangent please, but isn't it funny how everything and nothing *and all points inbetween* is correct based on your point of view?
But, suffice it to say I think you over accentuate the ties that currently bind us into a melding. But, I am speaking from my point of view and thusly maybe incorrect * or mayeb not, perhaps my point of view shapes my reality and we only truly share a reality in the sense we can interact*.
[edit on 19-10-2009 by Watcher-In-The-Shadows]
The basis of God in the OP's source is silly. It goes on and on about fusing yourself to a greater being like a virus, yet it still speaks of God as being some sort of diety. The two opposing thumbs are fighting with each other.