Originally posted by Shoujikina
which is effectively calling it gravity. which we still dont know what it is.
Gravity is vertical part of the Earth's magnetic field.
Phobos-Grunt: Russia, launched Nov. 8, 2011 on a mission to the Mars moon Phobos. The robotic probe malfunctioned after launch and is currently stuck in Earth orbit. The $163 million Phobos-Grunt spacecraft's thrusters failed to fire in a maneuver that would have sent the spacecraft on to Mars. Engineers have about three days to figure out and fix the problem, according to Russian news reports.
Originally posted by MegaCurious
Yeah, time travellers are totally technologically capable of pulling stuff like that off. They can even hijinx stuff with a "psychic".
I wouldn't be surprised if the story got crazier and time travelers were hijinxing colliders for aliens and stuff
Originally posted by micpsi
That the Higgs boson exists is the implication of pioneering investigations between 1895 and 1908 by the two Theosophists Annie Besant and Charles Leadbeater, who used the same form of remote viewing as Hodson to reproduce features of the QCD string model of quark confinement over 80 years before Nielsen and his colleague Olesen proved that SU(3) colour monopoles could be topologically trapped
Originally posted by BaronVonGodzilla
Originally posted by freestonew
A pair of otherwise distinguished physicists have suggested that the hypothesized Higgs boson, which physicists hope to produce with the collider, might be so abhorrent to nature that its creation would ripple backward through time and stop the collider before it could make one, like a time traveler who goes back in time to kill his grandfather.
Is this Scientic Journal suggesting that my grandfather is so abhorrent to nature that I must go back in time to kill him? Does it matter that he's already dead?
Pretty big leap there to think that the LHC is being thwarted by future humans, not that it couldn't be true, but I would think Occam's razor would imply that it's just because it's huge and complicated and they haven't built one before. Have you ever seen pictures of it?
Surely you have, and don't you remember how much sheer detail there was? And when you noticed that down there was a tiny man, didn't you have a moment of realization, whoa, this thing is gigantic?
Anyway. I think they will get it right soon, but I think we should not play around with stuff like this.
The potential pay off seems to be nothing but justification or proof that God doesn't exist, which will satisfy nobody, God's flock of sheep will continue to believe and ignore anything that say otherwise, science will still smugly believe in it's superiority, and yet, the potential for sci-fi movie doom seems large enough to case me to say, whoa, hold your horses.
Let's solve world hunger, AIDS, cancer, oil, racism, the problem with the ocean, pollution, hell, we have plenty to do that doesn't require giant sciency doom labs.
Originally posted by AuntC
I fully agree, and do you realize that with all the trillions and trillions they spent on that thing
they could have made everyone that is homeless have a nice home
Instead they just want to play with something they really do not understand, and don't really even get any real satisfaction out of it.
Originally posted by eywadevotee
The higgs field would create time by causing mass and entropic decay. To create a higgs field force carier quanta would mean that it is essentially a bubble of non-local time. If such conditions existed to excite the field long enough to stabilize and enlarge the newly created time-space, it could travel in local time and collapse resulting in a shock wave that causes parts of local time to fragment. They are playing with fire IMHO. Could be fun, but we may get burned.