Not only did this ghost push you but he erased the fall from your mind? If ghosts exist, I doubt they have these powers. I would blame it on fumes from the plants grown in Socal.

Originally posted by earthdude
Not only did this ghost push you but he erased the fall from your mind? If ghosts exist, I doubt they have these powers. I would blame it on fumes from the plants grown in Socal.

Possible! Then again, it could be a simple case of penis envy. He saw mine was bigger than his , he couldn't deal with it, so he pushed me over a cliff.

Originally posted by earthdude
Not only did this ghost push you but he erased the fall from your mind?

Those who have experienced traumatic experiences (I can attest) will lose some of the memory of the accident in the beginning. I had a nasty spill downhill biking. I don't remember falling, just 'coming to' on the ground. I had to deduce what actually happened.

Originally posted by earthdude
If ghosts exist, I doubt they have these powers.

Why?

Originally posted by earthdude I would blame it on fumes from the plants grown in Socal.

Oh boy, the silliness ensues...

Thanks for the thoughtful response, and no need to be concerned whether I agree or not (ATS is about fact-finding, not popularity). Humans are part of nature, aren't they? Why would they seek to destroy one life after another had been killed? Also, if you were a mountain lion, do you think it would've attacked you in the same way? Why or why not? A lot of why questions, I know. I'm just curious as to why humans are always talked about as supernatural entities. Blows the idea of evolution out of the water, I suppose...

You may be onto something however, as there are humans who do worship nature and surely wish to 'protect' it by calling upon an unsavory spirit.



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I actually live near the los angeles crest, that forest has alot of history, some of it very bad and dark. That forest was a haven for murders and making people disappear. I wouldn't be surprise if there was something evil lurking out there. Did your gf see anyone? when you were taking a piss, did you hear anyone? Did you physically feel something push you, were you able to turn around and get a look or see if anyone pushed out. Your gf didn't notice you gone? You said when you were out there pissing you felt like something was wrong, did it feel like someone was watching you? did the air feel really thick? did you hear or see anything out of place before it happen? I'm you survived man, but in order to find out what excatly this thing was, human or supernatural, we gotta collect more evidence and facts.

Originally posted by Nemox42
There are usually a few things that need to verified before you can say its a ghost, and yes spirits and ghost can physically harm you.

Alrighty, you have testimony, yes? It may help our original poster. I don't know anyone who makes this claim without experience though surely it's possible.

maybe it wasn't an "attack" maybe it was a spirit trying to get your attention.

Originally posted by useless eaters
This is a true story that happened to me in 1981

While driving on a remote section of Angeles Crest hwy. in Southern CA , it was raining with patches of fog and it was getting close to night fall. After looking both ways seeing no traffic, I pulled over to relieve myself.

I felt a little uncomfortable, a since of uneasiness came over me as I was standing there peeing off the edge of an almost vertical cliff of about two hundred feet. I just wanted to hurry up get the job done and get the hell out of there because of the uneasiness and before another car caught me in this awkward position.

Suddenly and without warning I was laying spread eagle about 20 to 25 ft. down this cliff, clinging to the exposed roots of trees. If I had not landed spread eagle on my back which broke my fall, I would have been dead at the bottom of the cliff. I somehow made it back up the embankment thanks to pulling myself up with the exposed tree roots.

I opened the car door, I was a bloody, muddy, mess, my girlfriend who had been in the passenger seat all this time, was astonished to see me this way. She said, “you look like you have seen a ghost, Oh my God what happened” I didn’t even answer her until we were several miles down the road, I didn’t even scrape the mud off me, I got out of there as fast as I could.

After her persistence in questioning me, and after picking the right words so as to not scare her to much, I finally told her, I WAS PUSHED! You were what, she asked? I WAS PUSHED OVER THE CLIFF and was lucky to be alive. EVEN THOUGH THERE WAS NO ONE AROUND FOR MILES, SOMETHING OR SOMEONE HAD PUSHED ME. I FELT THE HANDS ON THE BACK OF MY SHOULDER BLADES AS IT PUSHED ME. Luckily, I was able to spin around and land spread eagle. Even though I slid down the cliff a good 20 ft., If I had landed any other way, I would have been dead.

She then told me, she had experienced the same uneasiness when I had stopped the car.

Anyone else had an encounter like this from a maligned, disembodied spirit?…..

I had sort of an experience like that. I was on a trip to philadelphia with my friends and classmates from my school. Before the trip my mother gave me a religious amulet for protection against paranormal things. At first I thought it was for traffic accidents but on my second night there I was taking a shower while my friends were outside. I left the amulet on the night stand by my bed and went to shower.

When I was scrubbing my hair I felt like something was behind me and was about to touch me. I whipped around thinking it was my friend pranking me. There was no one there. I began to freak but ignored it. When the uneasiness got worse I quickly rinsed my hair and opened the shower curtains to step out. I looked up and into the mirror that was across from me. My heart sped up as I looked at the mirror reflecting the shower and me. I didn't see anything but I felt like something was behind me and I should be seeing it. It was like something was blocking me from seeing it.

I didn't scream but wrapped the towel around myself and grabbed my clothes and anything I needed and got out running. My friends were like "what's wrong?" I screamed "WHERE'S MY AMULET!" they pointed to the nightstand and I grabbed it. Instantly the uneasiness went away. It was like whatever was there ran from me immediately I grabbed the amulet. My friends looked at me weirdly.

When I got home I told my mother and she looked thoughtful. Then she asked if I remembered the story she told me about myself when I was two. I thought back and remembered that she told me something similar to this experience.

I was two back then. We entered the hotel and I began slamming things. I screamed and cried. I slammed the coffee table and almost slipped on the stairs into the bathroom. I was going crazy. I didn't calm down till my aunt gave me a religious jade amulet.

Both times I was almost attacked by something.

Originally posted by HimurakaIchigo
I didn't calm down till my aunt gave me a religious jade amulet.

What is the amulet?

Originally posted by useless eaters

Originally posted by Aelur
So, you just blacked out and regained conciousness at the bottom of the cliff? Before jumping to the paranormal conclusions, go to a doctor. It may have been a neurological problem.
If the doctor is clueless, then I suggest you look up some protection magic (I'm not an expert, but I heard salt does wonders), go to the place and try to contact the spirit/demon. Of course, have in mind that everything may go horribly wrong and you end up dead. But well, if you're bored and you don't have anything better to do...

Lol! so does "holy water"!
Not sure where you got the idea I was at anytime unconscious. Why would I want to return to the area and contact the spirit/demon? Maybe to mock his failure? No thanks!

I suggest you don't go back unless you're POSITIVE or SURE that you won't anger it and have yourself killed. For one, I never dared go back to the places that I mentioned on this thread.

Whatever attacked you was intended to kill you. They only try once when you're there but if you provoke it bad enough it will attack you over and over again. You were lucky that whatever attacked you allowed you to climb back up. If it wanted to, it could have broken on of those roots you used.

So my suggestion is to NOT go back EVER!

Originally posted by HimurakaIchigo
For one, I never dared go back to the places that I mentioned on this thread.

Whatever attacked you was intended to kill you. They only try once when you're there but if you provoke it bad enough it will attack you over and over again. You were lucky that whatever attacked you allowed you to climb back up. If it wanted to, it could have broken on of those roots you used.

So my suggestion is to NOT go back EVER!

Good and safe advice. Anyone who puffs themselves up and thinks they can beat down something they don't understand is in for a nasty surprise...speaking from experience.

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Originally posted by saint4God
If it were his girlfriend, wouldn't she have driven off? Or at least ran away and made up a story while hitchhiking? Hanging around, she'd know she'd be first to be blamed if he survived. Why would she just sit there if she thought she succeeded? Girlfriend doesn't add up here with the given circumstances. Chances of a stranger are a little better. I'm unclear on an evil spirit's motive for a one-time incident like this, but am not ruling it out at this point.

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There is a possibility that when he blacked out that his girlfriend realized she didn't kill him and ran back to the car. Some people never doubt their love ones. Cause they'll think "she couldn't have done it. She loves me". That way his girlfriend is not suspected. She could have used that against him. I'm not saying she did it but it could be a possibility that if she did it then she used love against him.

Gentlemen/ladies(if any chime in), the poster said this event happened 28 years ago.
But aside from that, and the uneasiness you felt during your wee, which typically is a relaxing affair, do you recall, in addition to uneasiness, unusual heightening of your senses? Like you were being approached or watched?
And if you recall, what part of your body experienced the force that sent you over the edge? I ask, because in personal experience, whether with live, or otherwise entities, I've noticed that when being watched or sneakily approached, I feel an increase of, I guess, energy in my immediate area.

Originally posted by HimurakaIchigo
I was so scared. I know that there are demons and evil spirits that are really really evil but I was only a CHILD, barely a teen.

Actually this is probably the best time to strike. Teen years are very impressionable. We start to question things like spirituality and reality.

Originally posted by HimurakaIchigo
It still paralyzed me against the bed but it kept knocking me unconscious. I fought against it. At one time I saw the clock it read 12 something. When i was able to gain control again I looked at the clock and it said 2...

Critics here would say it's sleep paralysis. Have you already discounted this theory?

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