Swine flu "forced vaccination" is a conspiracy created by ATS members

reply to post by unicorn1


It's not worry that's bothering me, no worry isn't going to help in the societies of today. It's shock and disbelief that I feel, I have been doing plenty of research since I first became suspicious of Swine Flu back in June. Yes I heard the Conspiracies ring out, but I didn't jump on the Band-Wagon. I started to look into the facts, all I have seen so far is coincidence after coincidence.

I remember in 2007 when they said I killer virus was imminent, hence the reason they had stockpiles of Tamiflu. Sure enough just by "chance" a "killer Virus" comes along and they get to use up all the stockpiles of Tamiflu, at the same time they make billions of the old $$$. They knew this virus was spreading fast and they failed to shut boarders, limit travel and so forth.

All these so called conspiracies are happening, Thimerosal in the vaccine. FEMA camps, who knows how many plastic coffins and graves/vaults or whatever they are calling them. In Ireland they are making clear "If you don't get the Vaccine you go to Jail" in the UK "If GP's don't get the Vaccine they loose their jobs" in the USA all I see is pending martial law. The only Conspiracies were from the people who said "None of this is happening, it's all in your mind" and if it were to happen "Love and Light will save you" or "God will save you" AND WE ARE THE ONES WHO ARE MAD, We are realist NOT conspiracy theorist.

Remember the New World Order, remember the stick realist got when they warned people about a one world government, oh yes I remember being laughed at by my friends, and people on-line, not so funny now the words "New World Order" have been spoken out time and time again, president after president, PM after PM. Yet we are still labelled Conspiracy theorist.



[edit on 4-10-2009 by NotAgain]

I speak for myself when I say that I'm being forced to take the vaccinations. I mentioned it in another post before, that I am a nursing student, and that it is mandatory that our other classmates and I must get this H1N1 vaccine before (I forgot which date in Nov/December), or else we will be forced to withdraw from our clinical courses (and we won't be allowed to pass our courses or graduate).

My job (I'm a nurse's aide on the side), and we will not be allowed to show up to work after Dec. 1st, if we fail to get the vaccine. So, yes, this is NO conspiracy at all. This is VERY real in NYS. I don't know about other agencies besides health care in NYS, or what else is going on with the H1N1 vaccine throughout other states, but, it's pretty outrageous that we're being forced to take it. None of the nurses I spoke to are happy about taking this either.

Better do some research before you make these claims. Google's a pretty good search engine.

One thing op, I don't know if you just avoided the question or what.
So i'll rephrase the question.
Has the op been inoculated with the current swine flu vaccine?



I wonder if she's on ATS

How about a little mainstream for ya


but it all started right here on ATS

How irresponsible of us I can't believe we started listening to experts.

see people if this guy already had his vaccine. he damn sure isn't going to listen to anything negative about it.
So how about it op?

one more


your right though, great heading!!!

Is anyone ready to report and confirm that forced vaccination of the entire civilian population has begun in their country yet ?

Day four of what?
Vaccinations coming available in Australia. is that supposed to mean
their plan is fully implemented. Sounds like the accusations about people
in the U.S. would better describe your train of thought for the present.
Are you nieve enough to believe that any conspiracy (if there was one )
(Georgia Guidestones)to depopulate the planet, wouldn't have more than one phase.
Op you just need to take off the rose colored glasses.
The same people who gave the starving freezing Indians on their reservations, blankets laced with smallpox. Killed both Kennedy's on t.v.
in front of God and everybody. I'm not going to go any further.
These same people have a dream to populate the planet with only certain bloodlines.
Proof no I don't have any. I have however always been able to get a real
good idea of what someone is thinking by putting myself in thier shoes.
Funny it matches right up to all the evidences and trends.
Right down to the way, they like to make you real familier
with the Knife they are going to use to cut your heart out.
If you don't believe thier are wicked people running things on this planet.
then your hopeless and you belong on ignore.
Just go on living your great life and don't forget those glasses .
You're going to need them.


[edit on 4-10-2009 by randyvs]

would like to just say the government has 15 camps here in Australia which are Identical to FEMA's ones.

The Vaccinations are being targeted at specifically ill people, the disabled, and the elderly.

alot of doctors are refusing to vaccinate their children.

I advise that you do not get the vaccine.

In 3 months it will be mandatory.

reply to post by afoolbyanyothername


From what I understood this is only going to be forced in the U.S I never heard elsewhere.

In the U.S the government has ways to legally force Americans to take it due to pandemic laws and procedures. When their is any time of pandamic of some disease the U.S government has the right to take over and force people to take the shots to control the pandemic. SO if their is a pandemic like swine flu is then the Government has the right to force every American and visitors coming to America to take the swine flu shots. This can happen when their is a pandemic or a huge outbreak. Once the situation or illness been a pandemic in the U.S they got the green light to allow drug companies to make the antidote and produce it fast and have the liability waved because the drug is not tested. This is only in a pandemic situation.

SO from what I hear it's only in the U.S that they will force the people inside the U.S to get the shots.

I already got a e-mail from my college saying that The first 2 weeks of october they will offer free swine flu shots on campus. They told us after the 2 weeks you must see a doctor to get a swine flu shot by the end of october. They said if you don't get the shot by the end of october you can't be on any of their campuses.

So in a way they are pressuring people to take the shots. I don't think in the US they will force you but they will create situations to pressure you to take the shots.

When you say force it would mean that the U.S government will get their army dudes after you and grab you sit you down at a doctor office and give you the shot against your will. That's not how it will happen in the U.S .

In the U.S it will work something along the lines like if you don't take the swine flu shot you can't show up at work or go to school. They will make companies liable if anyone gets swine flu because some of their employees showed up with swine flu and spread it.
The schools will be liable if anyone gets swine flu. I mean if the shots are available and they notice the schools didn't make the students that attended classes to take the flu shot this will allow a lawuit called being negligent. If the school or workplace told everyone that you need to take the swine flu shot and it's mandatory then they just done thier job and won't get sued. AS long they verify the employees or the students got their shots then that liability is waved off. They tried to prevent sickness in their schools or work place so the U.S law will protect them saying they did the best with what they have.

This is why most universities/ colleges in the U.S is giving free flu shots. This is not because they care for your well being. They are doing this to avoid any lawsuits. The U.S laws does state that we have a right to our health. Meaning if for any reason I get you sick and I could of prevent you from getting sick that would be negligence. I would be sued for negligence. How ever if I did get you sick but I told you I am sick and I covered my mouth and tried to prevent my germs from spreading then I can't get sued.

The colleges are liable if someone gets sick only if they didn't make any attempt to prevent it. This is why they are making this move. It's not from their good heart they want people to not get sick and be better or to prevent getting swine flu. It's just a liability issue. The company that you may work for can be liable if you do get swine flu since their is no protocal or the company didn't do anything to prevent the employees from getting swine flu. The company may give notice to everyone that the flu shots are available and would encourage or would love you to take the shots. If they give any type of notice or such this gives them no liability to anyone catching the swine flu since they alerted everyone and told him to get the flu shot. The person that came in work with swine flu can get sued by the company or other people. Under being negligent. You could of just stayed home and not spread the flu. However in real life you may not tell people you have swine flu but just a cold or something. They can't prove in court you knew ahead of time going to work that you had swine flu.

Hope this helps any. So to sum it up The U.S will put pressure on Americans to take the shot. THey will not force americans to take it but will create penalties and many behind the scenes ways to get you to take the shot.

reply to post by DoctorLaVey


I knew there were some awake people in Oz, now go wake the sheep up


Joke

reply to post by computerwiz32


Don't forget Ireland "Get the Flu shot or face fines or 6 months in Jail"

Oh and GP,s in England who face loosing their jobs if they don't take the shot, one step towards the whole country being forced. Or pressured as you stated in your post.



[edit on 4-10-2009 by NotAgain]

reply to post by computerwiz32

I already got a e-mail from my college saying that The first 2 weeks of october they will offer free swine flu shots on campus. They told us after the 2 weeks you must see a doctor to get a swine flu shot by the end of october. They said if you don't get the shot by the end of october you can't be on any of their campuses.

Oh yes manipulation. A favorite of people with a narcissistic psychosis.
A way for them to feel as if they are God.
Oh it's not going to be globally mandatory.
Nothing wrong with this heading.

[edit on 4-10-2009 by randyvs]

I have to say this is an interesting thread, not only that it exhibits the exemplary ability of the people here to display critical thinking skills (as is characteristic for ATS'ers), but also that it reminds me a bit of one of the basic premises of Fabian Socialism. When people cannot gather together on something which is significantly important due to their own doubts, then that self-doubt that what they are seeing is in fact reality can be used against them to further divide them along very fine and difficult to see lines. Very interesting to see this displayed here once again.

Although I haven't fully swallowed and digested the whole "The Secret - Law of the Universe... thought forms create physical manifestation reality"... thing, I guess the "fact" that I am saying to myself 10 times a day, "Don't make us take the vaccines" is so for working...?? But maybe this line of reasoning to some people doesn't seem so silly. Just some thoughts.

I agree, though, Bravo for another thought-provoking thread here at ATS.

I know this might sound a little wierd...

But has anyone ever considered they might die by NOT getting the vaccine?

Maybe some of you have the whole thing "the other way around" and the American government is trying to save it's people? Maybe there's a plan to wipe out 80% of the populous, but not with the vaccine... maybe those with the vaccine will be unaffected by the "next outbreak"? Maybe the vaccine has the antidote? Think about it... Why would a government want to severely cripple it's population to the point it could get invaded by anyone!? OMG THE Venezuelan army is invading us!? Sounds like a really dumb move if you ask me, especially since (IF there are in fact people controlling this) their IQ's are probably higher than everyone on this board added up and multiplied by the same amount.

Makes more sense to think about keeping, even increasing Americas population in order to take over the world AFTER some outbreak happens, which we've all secretly been forced to be protected; no matter the risk.

Don't forget, how much land is occupied in America VS. Wild America... Go check it out, we're NO WHERE NEAR anything like overpopulation... as a matter of fact, if nothing is done, we're looking at a population decline if the ratio of children to couples doesn't increase... 1.8 kids per couple, even lower in some places. So that means, for every 2 people, only 1.8 is made. Sounds downward to me.

Us in highly developed countries and continents like Canada / US / Australia / Europe / Brazil / Asia / ETC / ETC... are kind of like Lizards... we grow to what our direct surroundings can give us. A Python won't grow to 10 feet living in a small aquarium will it?

reply to post by ChemicalSubstance



Great find Star for you my friend, so this goes to show the Vaccine is not in full force yet. So nobody has the right to say Forced Vaccine is a conspiracy, all the facts seem to be pointing at forced vaccination. Like somebody said only time will tell, However I personally have deep concerns about the next few months.

reply to post by mindpurge


That is also a great possibility, I mentioned something like that a few pages back.

I believe whatever is in the vaccine will kill/Make Ill anyone who does not have the vaccine, e.g. people who get the vaccine spread the virus, although they are protected themselves. How else do you git rid of conspiracy theorist who are close too the truth. Lets hope there are some honest people out their working on their own vaccine. Post

Makes you think hey

Still at this moment in time with the reasearch I have done, the Vaccine is still a no no... No mercury for me thank you

[edit on 4-10-2009 by NotAgain]

Check out what mercury does to brain tissue.

YouTube

reply to post by endisnighe


Not sure where you are referring to, but this is not the case in the US. My wife is an RN at a major hospital and there is absolutely no current or future requirement for her to have any vaccine. Total nonsense.

delius

Originally posted by mindpurge
I know this might sound a little wierd...

But has anyone ever considered they might die by NOT getting the vaccine?

Maybe some of you have the whole thing "the other way around" and the American government is trying to save it's people? Maybe there's a plan to wipe out 80% of the populous, but not with the vaccine... maybe those with the vaccine will be unaffected by the "next outbreak"? Maybe the vaccine has the antidote? Think about it... Why would a government want to severely cripple it's population to the point it could get invaded by anyone!? OMG THE Venezuelan army is invading us!? Sounds like a really dumb move if you ask me, especially since (IF there are in fact people controlling this) their IQ's are probably higher than everyone on this board added up and multiplied by the same amount.

I am of the mindset that they could easily kill off or let die the entire populations of North America and South America and still be "in the green" so to speak, whether that is from the vaccine or from the flu itself. The populations of the EU, Asia, and Africa could keep TPTB floating for whatever reasons.

Don't forget, how much land is occupied in America VS. Wild America... Go check it out, we're NO WHERE NEAR anything like overpopulation... as a matter of fact, if nothing is done, we're looking at a population decline if the ratio of children to couples doesn't increase... 1.8 kids per couple, even lower in some places. So that means, for every 2 people, only 1.8 is made. Sounds downward to me.

Agreed, but downward is what they are expecting and have been working on these many many years. No matter the risk, that's right.

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it gets better by they day

WRONG, SWINE FLU BREATH.

It is ATS WHO IS KEEPING THE GOVERNMENT AT BAY.....WE KIND OF SCREWED UP THEIR LITTLE PLANS.....for now....

So i give 100% credit to my family here for having a loud voice over the Internet and POSTPONING the evil deed the government is planning.

*****

The more we beatch and complain, the more we back them into a wall.

Originally posted by searching4thetruth

Originally posted by afoolbyanyothername
Well, it's now day 3 of the swine flu vaccine availability here in Australia.
And so far ... zip, zero, zilch has been happening with regards to the "forced vaccination" conspiracy that's been running rampant here on ATS for the past few months.

In fact, media attention regarding the availability has been so low-key that it's almost non-existant with just an initial report a few days ago that the vaccine was now available.

Life apparently goes on as normal ... no military law ... no forced vaccinations ... no infringement of civil liberties ... no fines ... no imprisonment ... no detention ... no camps ... no body bags ... no mass burials ... NO NOTHING.


Just NOT going to happen .... EVER ... and not a single one of you can produce any proof or evidence that it ever will.

Well said my brother from down under!

With you 100%. ATS attracts those with rampant paranoia these days......

reply to post by malcr


Well, darn it, i 'd rather it be "just a conspiracy", fearmongering, rumor, another way for the elitists to scare us, the boogieman ^^ and whatever, than have it be true.

If its a conspiracy, then GOOD.

Besides, we dont know yet, do we? Lets just see what happens.

(This is what we do here, we scare people to death) Mwhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!


Do you want the armed forces to kiick in your door and stick you with a huge needle? Well, then...........