Point Blank: Is there a God, why and why not?, page 17

reply to post by sirnex

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The mourning of a death was an example.

I only hope you would better try to understand why you are here and what you are doing, because YOUR the one who chose this incarnation believe it or not. Proof? YOUR the proof.

[edit on 6-11-2009 by Psychonaughty]

reply to post by Psychonaughty

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The mourning of a death was an example.

It wasn't a very good example in my opinion and did very little to help out your argument.

I only hope you would better try to understand why you are here

Because my mom and dad had sex.

and what you are doing,

So far, I've been living; but I suppose that depends on your definition of living. I would rather do thing's more simplistically rather than forced to live accordingly to the majority of societal rules and laws given to me by people who don't even know I exist.

because YOUR the one who chose this incarnation believe it or not.

I disagree, I have no recollection of consciously choosing for my mom and dad to have sex.

Proof? YOUR the proof.

I think I refuted that proof with the above statement.

reply to post by sirnex

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You forget your past when you are born so that the illusion is effective.

It's like having the cheats to a video game, what would be the point in playing?

Originally posted by Psychonaughty
reply to post by sirnex

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You forget your past when you are born so that the illusion is effective.

It's like having the cheats to a video game, what would be the point in playing?

Do you have any evidence for that statement? If this statement *were true*, how were you able to learn that this is so?

reply to post by sirnex

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the head of the mayan elders himself, Don Alejandro spoke of this big shift i nconsciosuness around 2012. You should not talk if you are simply unaware.
i send peace towards you


[edit on 11/6/2009 by Valeri]

reply to post by Psychonaughty

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you are a wise man, jsut another aprt of me.Im glad to be you.
It's an honour to meet another part of myself,that has realised who I/You am/are.

Originally posted by Valeri
reply to post by sirnex

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the head of the mayan elders himself, Don Alejandro spoke of this big shift i nconsciosuness around 2012. You should not talk if you are simply unaware.
i send peace towards you


[edit on 11/6/2009 by Valeri]

Quackery at it's finest. The Mayan calender makes no such predictions. Just because a calender ends doesn't mean the world will or there will be some big cosmic shift of consciousness. I really can't wait till 2013 comes and people are left wondering why nothing happened. Again.

Originally posted by sirnex

Originally posted by Valeri
reply to post by sirnex

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the head of the mayan elders himself, Don Alejandro spoke of this big shift i nconsciosuness around 2012. You should not talk if you are simply unaware.
i send peace towards you


[edit on 11/6/2009 by Valeri]

Quackery at it's finest. The Mayan calender makes no such predictions. Just because a calender ends doesn't mean the world will or there will be some big cosmic shift of consciousness. I really can't wait till 2013 comes and people are left wondering why nothing happened. Again.

Why are you running away fro mthe topic you talked about,namely you said that the mayas never talked about any shift.

I said they did and do,around 2012,to be mroe exact the ysay the time window is 2007-2015.
www.shiftoftheages.com...
one of many sources to prove my point that yes they do indeed expect a huge shift in consciousness as the 4th sun ends and fifth begins.(era-sun)

You are now going over to another topic, I merely stated that yes,the maya,and the Hopi Indian tribes,as well as many other indigenous tribes around the whole world,see the upcoming years where the shift will happen. a shift in consciousness, an ascension if you will. Certainly not all are ready,and that is okay as well.
but you will experience a 7-8 second enlightenment when the shift happens,you will experience being ONE intelligent infinity,all humans and all that is etc is YOU.

That will be a memory you will have even if you don't ascend this tiem around.So I guess you will have your proof, just keep in mind that when you experience it, it was the ascension point. And all wil lexperience this,even those who will continue their journey in 3D as it' called.

So if you really can't lok within, don't want to take up meditation,don't want to reach within,where all knowledge lies,all the answers are within you....if you really don't want to enter that knoweldge through the pineal gland among other sources,then I guess this 8 second experience will be your PROOF.

reply to post by infinite

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agreed, but you are missing the point of why "god" exists. the only way for us as a human species to describe this "spiritual energy," "source," "higher power," or what have you, is through communication, bringing forth "god." For example; many believe in coincidence, but through my understanding, a coincidence is the easy way out to describe "karma." For the most part, human beings have yet to acquire the knowledge for such profound and in depth subjects. Religion is a start in exploring such phenomena, but only the tip of the iceburg.

reply to post by Valeri

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I disagree with everything you've stated. No information that I can find on the Mayans themselves seems to indicate anything that you have said. For the record, I do meditate, but i don't experience any of this nonsense everyone appears to claim.

reply to post by sirnex

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By peircing the viel of forgetfulness through applied discipline throughout every moment of my life.

Through meditation throughout my day, every day.

Literature can be your friend if you find the core of truths drowning in the sea of perversions, but I caution you with outside sources, as all answers are from within.

Now some quotes from Ra:

That which is infinite cannot be many, for many-ness is a finite concept. To have infinity you must identify or define that infinity as unity; otherwise, the term does not have any referent or meaning. In an Infinite Creator there is only unity. You have seen simple examples of unity. You have seen the prism which shows all colors stemming from the sunlight. This is a simplistic example of unity.

In truth there is no right or wrong. There is no polarity for all will be, as you would say, reconciled at some point in your dance through the mind/body/spirit complex which you amuse yourself by distorting in various ways at this time. This distortion is not in any case necessary. It is chosen by each of you as an alternative to understanding the complete unity of thought which binds all things. You are not speaking of similar or somewhat like entities or things. You are every thing, every being, every emotion, every event, every situation. You are unity. You are infinity. You are love/light, light/love. You are.

And my favorite quote ofcourse:

This is why we iterate quite often, when asked for specific information, that it pales to insignificance, just as the grass withers and dies while the love and the light of the One Infinite Creator redounds to the very infinite realms of creation forever and ever, creating and creating itself in perpetuity.

Why then be concerned with the grass that blooms, withers and dies in its season only to grow once again due to the infinite love and light of the One Creator? This is the message we bring. Each entity is only superficially that which blooms and dies. In the deeper sense there is no end to being-ness.

-Ra (6th density soul group complex).




[edit on 6-11-2009 by Psychonaughty]

reply to post by Psychonaughty

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By peircing the viel of forgetfulness through applied discipline throughout every moment of my life.

I'm not sure what your saying here. Are you trying to tell me that your able to remember thing's before they even had a brain to commit to memory? Or memory isn't stored in the brain at all?

Through meditation throughout my day, every day.

I meditate, but I have never experienced anything during that new ager's claim to experience.

Literature can be your friend if you find the core of truths drowning in the sea of perversions, but I caution you with outside sources, as all answers are from within.

I don't trust outside sources of information unless they are backed up by evidence. If I went by answers from within only, I would be met with faulty answers. I could pray to a rain God, receive rain, but that doesn't mean a rain God exists or that I made it rain. I prefer evidence above all else.

Now some quotes from Ra:

I didn't answer your U2U on this Ra topic simply because the whole Ra thing, to me at least and most people with a clear headed mind, is a proven hoax. It's pure BS as well as Ra's 'What the bleep do we know' film.

Like I said, I value tangible evidence, not word of mouth garbage. I'm just not *that* trusting enough to buy into whatever crap comes out of peoples mouths. No evidence, no pass go, no collect $200, go directly to jail.

reply to post by sirnex

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What the bleep do we know has nothing to do with ra thats some person using the channelings for a personal intent.

reply to post by Psychonaughty

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Your right, I got that mixed up with something else, faulty memory on my part. Sorry about that. However, Ra is still the word of mouth channeling of someone, something I don't personally trust unless there is evidence for what is being said. Nor do I believe in channeling as I have never seen any evidence put forth for that feat being real or possible at all.

reply to post by sirnex

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[edit on 16-11-2009 by Psychonaughty]

reply to post by resonance

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Or you can find the One Creator through yourself, not some fabricated literature that misrepresents the teaching's of Jesus of Nazerath.

reply to post by Psychonaughty

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LOL please elaborate on this..

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