reply to post by esdad71
dad, I think you're conflating a few things here....allow me to explain:
There is none for 93. None.
This, you said about witnesses to the airplane, UAL 93. In fact, it was seen by two people, in a Piper. I can take the time to find the link, if you
want. It's been discussed often here at ATS.
....my impression that it was doctored due to the fact it took awhile to release and that they played a portion for the
families.
Seems you are referring to the CVR? I earlier was talking about the FDR.
I don't think the "doctored" hypothesis is gonna fly. Perhaps if you looked into what the widow of Capt. Jason Dahl had to say...and also, I think
we should check into the actual time
after the fact when the CVR was played just for family. I believe you will find that occurred well
before the Moussani trial date, when it was played to only those with a need to hear (jury, judge, attorneys, etc...no visitors allowed).
Back to Mrs. Dahl....the only refutation she had was, she believed that her husband had not been removed from his seat, as was widely thought by the
FBI. He had been gravely injured (I suspect throat cut) but she thinks she hears him on the tape, and hears what seems to be the hijacker, in
English, telling him to sit still, and not move. It is also Mrs. Dahl's belief that Capt. Dahl is responsible for the very brief radar contact that
logged, when the radar tag showed the Mode C (altitude) of 8,200 feet, then radar contact was again lost. This was about one minute before impact.
The CVR could very well be the actual tape but I believe the FDR was altered.
Again, that is a very incredible claim to make. It would be immensely difficult, in fact, I'd say impossible to do such a thing and not have the
tampering be noticed.
Now, on the CVR at 9:53 where here translated in arabic "Let him look through the window. Let him look through the window"
.
Here is where I believe you misunderstand the context of what was actually happening. If you read the entire transcript again, you will realize that
there were two hijackers in the cockpit, on flying, obviously. The sounds of commotion alerted them to what was happening, the revolt in the cabin.
The hijacker not flying grabbed the crash axe, as it was a far better weapon than just a boxcutter, and the guy flying is telling him, there in
Arabic, to show 'them' (meaning the passengers). The idiocy of this is, the hijackers were too stupid to realize that the peephole in the door only
works one way...just like in a hotel room door, or your home.
Finally....IF any fighter jet had lined up and was targeting UAL 93, there is NO WAY that anyone in the cockpit would have been able to see it! No
rear-view mirrors! No rear window! So, to think that the reference there was to a fighter about to fire, it is not valid, for those reasons (and
also the fact that the fighter's location is known, it was still minutes away from intercept. This from the radar tapes).
[edit on 17 March 2010 by weedwhacker]
