We all know about ISS. but are there other space stations in orbit with a manned crew ?

I find it a bit hard to believe that ISS. is the only one out there but hey what the heck do I know .

Currently the ISS is the only all time manned mission in orbit. Otherwise, the occasional shuttle and soyuz launch would be the the manned space ships in orbit. The rest are unmanned automatic satellites and vehicles. Because, the plain simple fact is "Space is risky".

Originally posted by jra

All that activity wouldn't go unnoticed.

Yes it would.

And the people who knew about it would be cleared to know.

You don't know everything JRA, especially when it come to military operations in space. You only get what you're given.

Launches by craft large enough to loft the pieces required to build a space station are visible over hundreds of miles, so there is no way to get one up there unnoticed. The station itself would be visible as the ISS currently is. Additionally there is no way to hide the huge amount of infrastructure that is required to logistically support such an operation.

Originally posted by Exuberant1

Originally posted by jra

All that activity wouldn't go unnoticed.

Yes it would.

And the people who knew about it would be cleared to know.

You don't know everything JRA, especially when it come to military operations in space. You only get what you're given.

By "activity" I was referring to rocket launches, and it's next to impossible to launch one without anyone noticing it. Every military rocket launch is announced ahead of time. Even when its payload is completely classified.

We seem to be going a bit off topic , there is no way we can prove or disprove an argument as to the possibility , or lack there of , of a secret station and the ability of such a project's ability to remain " hidden " from the general public . To be short on the matter , none of us know what the military can or can't do , even if we chose to think we do .

Can it be debated ? sure it can , however as to the question , " Just how many space stations are there ? " one would hope for some links , such as the great one posted by JRA

I stumbled across a link which I posted earlier in this thread and JRA , I think it was ? quickly rebutted the links credibility by challenging some key points that the report made

According to my insider reports that I read, there are MANY DOZENS of space stations up there, both of the human-made ones and the ET-made ones -- there are even several that are shared ones of both Earth-based humans and ET-based humans from other worlds.


No proof has been provided, of course, but reliable insider testimony strongly indicates that there really are NUMEROUS space stations that are stationed all over our Earth, most of which are unknown and most of which have been put up there by free energy power and are powered by free energy devices.


There is a major website that has a bunch of pictures that had been taken by a dude here on Earth and they show shapes that do NOT match that of the ISS and the space stations are quite large, with most of them a lot bigger than the ISS.


According to insider testimony, most of the Earth-based, non-NASA space stations have been put in space by free-energy, Zero-point technology, none of which use any sort of chemical rockets. All of them were launched from remote sites at night, so just about nobody ever saw them go up and, if anybody did, they'd be debunked and ridiculed as "UFO nuts".


One insider said that this huge Moon-based mining machine that he was contracted to build was several acres in size and he had to hire a plane to take him up in the sky in order for him to view the entire thing that he had built for the US government -- the entire thing was taken to the Moon in ONE PIECE.


Free energy devices have been extensively made and used by the covert elements and the Black Ops parts of the US government ever since the 50s and beyond. The use it for non-terrestrial projects, as well as their DUMB (Deep Underground Military Bases) projects.


I really resent that the elites have kept this free energy technology for themselves. REALLY RESENT IT! Man, here we are, buying THEIR polluting, Earth-destroying, and Stone-Age-old petroleum technology, whereas they are totally enjoying and benefiting from their extensive use of free-energy-based technology for their off-planet and in-planet projects. And they use the immense profits from their sales of petro to us in order to create even more money through THEIR fractional-reserve banking system, so that they'd have even MORE money, with which they can expand their off-planet and in-planet operations.


We've been had. Bad.

Originally posted by Max_TO
We seem to be going a bit off topic , there is no way we can prove or disprove an argument as to the possibility , or lack there of , of a secret station and the ability of such a project's ability to remain " hidden " from the general public

Nothing off topic about it, its more like you don’t want any scientific facts presented which disprove your theory. The answer is No, you cannot hide a project of this size, it would be visible to folks.

Those of us who live in Florida can attest to this, as most of us are aware of the amount of support industry, which is used to logistically supply the space program. Most of us are also aware of the visibility of space launches over great distances. The entire state of Florida can clearly see when the cape launches a rocket (I also hear that parts of Carolina, and Georgia can see them as well), and we get a nice loud wake-up call when one returns. We get to see the fuel cloud float over the state for hours after the launch. Hundreds of thousands of people are employed either directly by the space program, or the subcontract industries that support it. Launch and assembly facilities are not easy to hide. The list goes on and on as to why this is not happening.

If you are trying to say that its being built by captured USAF UFO’s, then this topic belongs in the Gray Area or UFO forum…

Originally posted by Historical-Mozart
There is a major website that has a bunch of pictures that had been taken by a dude here on Earth and they show shapes that do NOT match that of the ISS and the space stations are quite large, with most of them a lot bigger than the ISS.

Yes, Zargon had those pictures on here as well. I took them over to the Bad Astronomy Board, and they were identified as “Poorly taken, hand shot, photos of satellites and the ISS”. The folks over there were even nice enough to provide similar pictures that they had taken of known objects while working with their telescopes.

They have strange looking shapes because they slight motion of hand holding the camera causes a different blur depending on the way the camera is shaken (even indiscernible shaking when taking a pic like that will cause a blur).

Originally posted by defcon5

Yes, Zargon had those pictures on here as well. I took them over to the Bad Astronomy Board, and they were identified as “Poorly taken, hand shot, photos of satellites and the ISS”. The folks over there were even nice enough to provide similar pictures that they had taken of known objects while working with their telescopes.

Wow, I'm shocked, a sight full of 'debunkers' (hate that word) says that some of these had to be the ISS/satelites at different angles, motion blur etc. Honestly, didn't see that coming. I hope you understand that is their opinion and in no way a solid fact.

I like bad astronomy, good site if your interested in learning about physics or astronomy, but if your looking for an objective opinion, I'd find somewhere else. It's like me going to Rense and parroting what they say over there as fact over here, similar site, other end of the spectrum.

They have strange looking shapes because they slight motion of hand holding the camera causes a different blur depending on the way the camera is shaken (even indiscernible shaking when taking a pic like that will cause a blur).

I've seen the images and IMO they are two totally different structures, they have a similar construction, but the shapes of the actual space station aren't even close.

EMM

Originally posted by defcon5

Originally posted by Max_TO
We seem to be going a bit off topic , there is no way we can prove or disprove an argument as to the possibility , or lack there of , of a secret station and the ability of such a project's ability to remain " hidden " from the general public

Nothing off topic about it, its more like you don’t want any scientific facts presented which disprove your theory.

What ?? I am not sure where that comes from ??

Yes for the record I would love any " facts " regarding the question that I asked , which was , " Just how many space stations are there ? "

Not sure what theory you think I implied ?