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As WND reported, Lucas Smith, a former resident of Cedar Rapids, Iowa, and known by the eBay handle "colmado_noranja," claimed online and in phone conversations with WND to have an authentic document from Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa proving Obama's birth there at 7:24 p.m. on Aug. 4, 1961.
Filed with Court Declaration of Lucas Daniel Smith and a copy of Kenian hospital Birth Certificate for Barack Hussein Obama September 4th, 2009
Federal Advisory Committee on False Identification - Problems related to false identification and misuse of birth certificates have been addressed in a number of studies conducted over the last 25 years. In 1974, the Federal Advisory Committee on False Identification (FACFI), commissioned by the Attorney General of the United States, recognized the criminal use of false identification documents. In its 1976 report entitled
The Criminal Use of False Identification, the committee concluded that 100 percent of all Federal fugitives and 80 percent of all drug trafficking are associated with false identification. They also reported that false identification is a major factor in crime, including illegal immigration and flight from justice, and that falsified or stolen vital statistics (i.e., birth certificates) are used as “breeder documents.” (“Breeder documents” refer to documents that allow the holder to obtain other documents -- passports, driver’s licenses, etc. -- and benefits, such as resident status, Social Security benefits, loans, and other government aid, including Temporary Assistance to Needy Families, Food Stamps, and Medicaid). The Federal Advisory Committee also issued a supplemental report entitled A Plan for Reducing the Abuse of Birth Certification. In 1984, the Laws at Work Task Force, co-chaired by top HHS officials, issued a report entitled A Report of the Task Force on Criminal Implications of False Identification. These two reports on false identification have findings similar to the 1976 report
At a meeting with Simmons and Patricia Albjerg Graham, Deborah Leff suggested that Barack Obama would make a good board chairman.[36] After meeting and being impressed by Obama, Graham told Obama that she wanted him to be chairman of the Board of Directors.[36] Obama said that he would agree to serve as chairman if Graham would be vice chairman, to which Graham agreed.[36]
Originally posted by ExPostFacto
It says his birth place is Kenya.
you can't just say the other birth certificate was a hoax so this one must be.
Originally posted by ExPostFacto
reply to post by Mak Manto
I see your hesitancy in regarding this document as proof positive. But, seriously, you can't just say the other birth certificate was a hoax so this one must be.
Cause it is not good for our country to fight over this nonsense...if it has no merit.
I can say it's a hoax, because the person who said it was a real birth certificate later posted the birth certificate back up and wrote on it, "You've been punked."
Originally posted by Mak Manto
I can say it's a hoax, because the person who said it was a real birth certificate later posted the birth certificate back up and wrote on it, "You've been punked."
It is a hoax.
Originally posted by oneclickaway
..so he at least must believe it is genuine.
Well if some punk somewhere said it was a hoax that must make it so...sigh. So if I copy this Lucas certificate...change a few initials....make a copy, prop it up against a typewriter, add a woodblock of a child's footprint on the table...stick an inky fingerprint on the table for good measure and write 'you've been punk'd' all over it and screw it up, you will just take that at face value ...and somehow that would invalidate the Lucas certificate?