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reply posted on 15-9-2009 @ 02:58 PM by Kandinsky
reply to post by Hanslune

Hiya Hans,
Is it not conceivable that a spacefaring species of ET intelligence would teach lowly humans the fine art of using iron or copper to make buildings from stone? It seems reasonable to some that an alien civilization would send their best stonemasons and laborers across the light years to share their ability to fashion blocks from rock.

They must use their hi-tech craft to travel around loaded with Belle mixers, Castle cement bags and a variety of trowels and shovels.

Taken to it's logical conclusion...humans are incapable of original thought. If only aliens have the wits to design and manifest ideas, we all must be aliens, right?





reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 03:05 AM by Hanslune
reply to post by PsykoOps



If you were to ask a modern Muslim architect, a 6th century Shinto temple building Priest or a 12th century Cathedral builder they would all say they were aided by God, were his instrutment or it was built by him and not them. Its a common motif within ancient, medieval and present civilizations. Until the mid 20th century Christian Americans would often reply (and still do), I did it with Gods help.


reply posted on 16-9-2009 @ 07:31 PM by lostinspace
reply to post by Hanslune



I can understand this line of reasoning. A church goes up and the flock thanks God for providing for the funds, materials, the skilled crafters for the house of worship. God didn't magically make the money, materials and skill to pop out of thin air. The flock did it all themselves. The motivating spirit to make it was because of God.

However, I find the legend about the rock hewn Churches of Lalibela to be different than that. It was said that humans built them by day and angels worked on them by night. This is very specific. There must have been obvious changes in the construction for the scribe to record a difference in the building between night and day.



reply posted on 17-9-2009 @ 12:27 AM by Hanslune
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I would suggest that those who were especially highly motivated would have continued to work into the night. Either that or its just an invention of the writer. Again one has to take religious based hear say with a grain of salt.


reply posted on 17-9-2009 @ 01:23 AM by Extralien
Here is an old myth/legend about a church in the UK

It runs along the lines of 'assistance' but from a slightly alternative source;

Thriplow Church

The church was, according to legend, going to be built at the bottom of the village until the
'Devil' interfered and took the building materials to its present less than convenient location on
top of the hill above the village where it sits close to the ancient burial mound - 'Trippa's' burial
mound.

www.thriplow.com...

From what I remember of reading more of this legend, it was said that many attempts were made to build the church where the people wanted it, but each morning they would find all the work relocated.. until they finally gave up and carried on building it in its current position.

But why blame the devil?

Why did they not believe that God wanted the church on a higher position to be closer to God?

The possibility of an alien intervention may never have crossed their minds.

Even so, wether it was God, the Devil or aliens, someone/thing wanted this church built elsewhere.

What made these people create this legend? What made them pass the blame on to the Devil?


reply posted on 17-9-2009 @ 12:49 PM by Kandinsky
reply to post by spacevisitor

A more reasonable explanation for this particular 'crop circle' is the aggrieved mower returned at night and ensured his curse came true. That the story had enough merit to be reported shows that the mower's revenge had the desired effect on the tight-fisted farmer. Rather than aliens or the devil, it's probably evidence of an underpaid laborer's protest. I salute this unknown worker and imagine the farmer's superstitions led to him offering fairer pay


reply posted on 17-9-2009 @ 01:43 PM by spacevisitor
Originally posted by Hanslune
Sounds like the mower cut them down so I wouldn't find that particularly mysterious. Within the Christian community of the time anything remotely odd was considered to have been the work of the devil from natural events, disease, mental illness to bad luck.


Originally posted by Kandinsky
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post by spacevisitor

A more reasonable explanation for this particular 'crop circle' is the aggrieved mower returned at night and ensured his curse came true. That the story had enough merit to be reported shows that the mower's revenge had the desired effect on the tight-fisted farmer. Rather than aliens or the devil, it's probably evidence of an underpaid laborer's protest. I salute this unknown worker and imagine the farmer's superstitions led to him offering fairer pay



Thanks for these really well-thought-out down to Earth possibilities guys.
But look again what is depicted in that English woodcut pamphlet.

but next Morning appear'd so neatly Mow'd by the Devil, or some Infernal Spirit, that no Mortal Man was able to do the like.


I asume the mower was a Mortal Man right, so how do you guys explain that then?


reply posted on 17-9-2009 @ 04:10 PM by Jechu
This sites at Pumapunku are part of a Pre-inka civilization called Tiahuanaco. It's ruins are in part of southern Peru and north of Bolivia.

If you want to see some real breathtaking images of inka architecture, I suggest you look for:

The 12 angle stone: San Blas street in Cuzco city
vagamundos.net...

The temple of Coricancha (Spaniards destroyed part of it and built a Church) Cuzco City
www.portalinca.com...

Sacsayhuaman fortress. Simply huge, also in Cuzco City
galeon.hispavista.com...

Moray: An inka agricultural lab, each terrace has a different micro-climate. 3 hours from Cuzco
www.pasaporteblog.com...

And this is only part of what I saw last July.
I'm not even talking about Macchu Picchu.

This places are amazing and they were built by peruvians, not aliens. And why do we forgot how to build this? Because the spaniards came and conquered them.
That simple.
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