Howdy Spacevisitor

My own opinion is

They melted copper that already had 'contamination' in it. Melting copper isn't that difficult. Nor do you need a 'portable smelter' you just pour it into a pottery vessel that has wooden handles and walk it over to the spot which is itself sealed with a thin layer of clay (to keep it from leaking down the joint). I believe Perez(?) found the source of that metal in the 1970~but I'm going purely off memory, so don't quote me. A good question for the HoM.

Copper melts at around 1000c but various inpurities will increase or decrease this point. I believe in SA they were melting copper around 4000 BP while in the rest of the world, in particular Turkey and the Balkans they did so around 7000 BP.

If the copper were pure it would be interesting, the fact it isn't just demonstates the primitive nature of the operation.

Several civilizations came up with the smart idea of uses 'staples' to keep smaller blocks together.



[edit on 21/9/09 by Hanslune]

Originally posted by Hanslune
Howdy Spacevisitor

My own opinion is

They melted copper that already had 'contamination' in it. Melting copper isn't that difficult. Nor do you need a 'portable smelter' you just pour it into a pottery vessel that has wooden handles and walk it over to the spot which is itself sealed with a thin layer of clay (to keep it from leaking down the joint). I believe Perez(?) found the source of that metal in the 1970~but I'm going purely off memory, so don't quote me. A good question for the HoM.

Copper melts at around 1000c but various inpurities will increase or decrease this point. I believe in SA they were melting copper around 40000 BP while in the rest of the world, in particular Turkey and the Balkans they did so around 7000 BP.

If the copper were pure it would be interesting, the fact it isn't just demonstates the primitive nature of the operation.

Several civilizations came up with the smart idea of uses 'staples' to keep smaller blocks together.

[edit on 21/9/09 by Hanslune]

Thanks for your opinion and thoughts Hans.

Hey Space I made one correction I had 40,000 BP instead of 4000 BP ! Edited in my copy


Oh and an added feature

The fringe writers above say

All this in an area current theory denies an iron age.

Current theory remains correct the iron is a contaminant and in such a small amount it doesn't need to melt

There is nowhere in Bolivia a source for nickel to find.

Wow and where is the city located? Right in an area near both Chile and Peru – in one of the worlds greatest mining areas. However Hancock is correct – partially, there are no operating nickel mines presently in Bolivia, however in the past there were but – just in Peru and Chile which are nearby- not that the poor native ever traded – and of course there are deposit of copper in the nearby area which are not commercially viable in our world but fine for the natives use.

Yep the local native often followed modern boundary lines! LOL


[edit on 21/9/09 by Hanslune]

Originally posted by Hanslune

There is nowhere in Bolivia a source for nickel to find.

Wow and where is the city located? Right in an area near both Chile and Peru – in one of the worlds greatest mining areas. However Hancock is correct – partially, there are no operating nickel mines presently in Bolivia, however in the past there were but – just in Peru and Chile which are nearby- not that the poor native ever traded – and of course there are deposit of copper in the nearby area which are not commercially viable in our world but fine for the natives use.

Yep the local native often followed modern boundary lines! LOL

Well Hans, fair enough, this is hard to disprove, sorely for me.
Your explanation brought a smile on my face and that is a positive thing in discussions here on ATS.
We still have different views/opinions about certain issues, but that is all part of the game.

[edit on 22/9/09 by spacevisitor]

The purpose is so simple that most people don’t want it. The purpose is to prove to ourselves what we are, what we are made of. After doing so, that will determine where we go once we are off of this planet. Humans are here to determine where we go after the moment of death, which is related to how much more information and truths we become aware of, or not.

Way to complex Spacevisitor, I'm here for the pudding, iced drinks and excellent toilet facilities.

Believing what you want is great but there are certain physical laws that don't adapt to belief. There have been numerous people who thought they were immune to death, poison, sunstroke, drowing or bullets, all were wrong.

Originally posted by Hanslune

Believing what you want is great but there are certain physical laws that don't adapt to belief. There have been numerous people who thought they were immune to death, poison, sunstroke, drowing or bullets, all were wrong.

Of course they were all wrong, but if I understand that saying of Lou Baldin correct, it has nothing to do with HOW one dies, it has everything to do with HOW one lived.