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Originally posted by nixie_nox
And I am going to add that it is pretty pathetic that we can't have a discussion about anything without the anti-obama squad making a mockery of it.anything
Seriously, we know your agenda, your not adding anything useful, your spewing your own emotions to make you feel better. Quit ruining what can otherwise be a decent discussion.
*So half of America disapproves of Obama; should they not post in this thread? (...which concerns an event that took place during Bush's term)
She added: “But even if it had been euthanasia, it’s not something we don’t really do every day — it just goes under a different name.’’
‘‘We spend too much on these turkeys,’’ he said some would say. ‘‘We ought to let them go.’’
The debate among medical professionals about how to handle disasters is intensifying, with Pou and her version of the Memorial narrative often at the center. At a conference for hospital executives and state disaster planners a few months ago in Chicago, she did not mention that she injected patients, saying that helicopters arrived in the afternoon of Thursday, Sept. 1, and ‘‘we were able to evacuate the rest.’’
A second survey in the study contrasted the attitudes of leavers and stayers. As expected (and consistent with the different models of human agency), leavers were much more likely to emphasize choice, independence and to talk about being focused on the future and concerned about the risks of staying. Stayers were much more likely to emphasize community, faith, inner strength and tended to underestimate the risks. In short, while leavers saw the risks and wanted to get the heck out, stayers turned to the limited resources they had to do their best to weather the storm. For them, agency was handling what life gave them.
One of the things we heard from many of the survivors was that they didn't hear too many warnings or didn't think the warnings were that big of a deal," Stephens said. "If you distribute messages through sources that people trust, it makes those messages more effective."
For example, Stephens suggested that it might be more effective to disseminate messages through trusted institutions like churches or other community groups, rather than the mainstream media.
Originally posted by jd140
reply to post by Watcher-In-The-Shadows
I already stated pretty much the same thing.
They rather this be a thread about calling for this doctor to be executed for treating people like dirt.
As shown in the post above this one.
The interviews and documents cast the story of Pou and her colleagues in a new light. It is now evident that more medical professionals were involved in the decision to inject patients — and far more patients were injected — than was previously understood. When the names on toxicology reports and autopsies are matched with recollections and documentation from the days after Katrina, it appears that at least 17 patients were injected with morphine or the sedative midazolam, or both, after a long-awaited rescue effort was at last emptying the hospital. A number of these patients were extremely ill and might not have survived the evacuation. Several were almost certainly not near death when they were injected, according to medical professionals who treated them at Memorial and an internist’s review of their charts and autopsies that was commissioned by investigators but never made public.
Originally posted by nixie_nox
reply to post by Yossarian
The way I see it, is if the doctor wasn't being compassionate, they wouldn't of done anything at all. They would of just left. Taking the time to make the person more comfortable on their way out is more compassionate to me.
If I'd had an elderly relative in this hospital that was terminal or showed little signs of recovering - - - I would thank this doctor for putting his entire career on the line to not let them suffer.
Some people are so hung up on "Right Idealism" - - they are incapable of independent thinking - - applied to extreme circumstance.
And to judge anyone on their emotional state and intent from what you read on the internet is irresponsible in itself.
"Words on a page have no inflection" - - - it is irresponsible to add such.