Originally posted by jd140
Sources were running low and he had to concentrate on those that could live.

No.

He wanted to "get the nurses off the floor"

...nothing about compassion or saving resources.

‘‘I gave her medicine so I could get rid of her faster, get the nurses off the floor.’’

[edit on 30-8-2009 by Exuberant1]

Originally posted by jd140

Enjoy the rest of your time on this thread trashing the guy.

I will.

I am doing everything I can to get this doctor as much coverage as possible.

The next step is to have some doctors call for his prosecution. After that happens, I have to send the quotes to reporters, bloggers etc.

It can be hit-n-miss sometimes, but it works.



[edit on 30-8-2009 by Exuberant1]

Originally posted by uplander
What would you rather had happened to those poor people there who could not get out?

Yes, by all means, there was just no transportation available that Mayor Ray Nagin or Governor Blanco could have used to evacuate those people when the Hurricane was seen bearing down on them...

Triage is not the same situation as this case. The point of triage, as I am sure you know, is to get the sickest and the most heavily wonded patients who can be saved in to see the Doctor first. If nature takes its course with the patients waiting then there is no fault. That is far different than pushing an extra 100 mcg Fentanyl, IV to finish the job quicker.

The problem is with choice. Every person should be given the choice for the manner of their death if there is a choice to be made. If you want to die under anesthesia and I want to drown from the hurricane it is not your decision or the Doctors but mine alone.

The third problem is that this practice allows medical staff to play God and read the future. For example, You may decide to euthanize 10 patients because within the hour they will be suffering. However, 10 minutes after you push the drugs, enough choppers land on the roof for a Medivac. Therefore, because the medical staff has no way to fortell a future improvement of the problem the euthanization is wrong.

Finally, this is also wrong because it encroaches an absolute that should never be broken in my opinion, namely that another human has the right to take the life of another human. What this means is that basically if you can justify euthanasia in this situation or similar situations then it is easier to use in other situations. For example, today it is the poor Katrina patients but next it might be the poor autistic kids of America since they really are going to have a lot of suffering from life due to their condition. Once the absolute of a Doctor only saving lives is broken the same logic can be used to target any group under the auspices of 'mercy'.


Edit: Typo

[edit on 30-8-2009 by GTORick]

Originally posted by RoofMonkey

Originally posted by uplander
What would you rather had happened to those poor people there who could not get out?

Yes, by all means, there was just no transportation available that Mayor Ray Nagin or Governor Blanco could have used to evacuate those people when the Hurricane was seen bearing down on them...

Of course it would have been better to get them out of there. If you had read my post you would have seen that I said that. But that didn't happen. Of course there were screw ups with the evacuations. DUH! But since that didn't happen this Dr. was put in a terrible position and he did what he thought was right. Some may not like his tone when he states this, but I admire him for stating the facts and not lying about it or just flat out ignoring the inquiry.

I do not have time to read the whole thread, so please forgive me if this has already been brought up - but regardless of what the government's intention is and if the public still think there is a case to answer - do they not have the right to petition for civil action?

And I am going to add that it is pretty pathetic that we can't have a discussion about anything without the anti-obama squad making a mockery of it.anything
Seriously, we know your agenda, your not adding anything useful, your spewing your own emotions to make you feel better. Quit ruining what can otherwise be a decent discussion.